And I had a lot of fun for a couple hours, but I am done now. There just isn't a lot to talk about when the topic is a 3-13 team. They are an optomisitc bunch, but you really can't get worse than 3-13. I do really like the fact that they have so many members because there is always someone to debate with. Maybee I will go back if they start being half as competitive as their fans think they will be. Anyway here is hopeing they beet the Jets in week 1.