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[phishxhead]

Is it just me or does Hennehill seem to be looking for Wallace too much?

 

[Sarnics13]

I don't understand it either. He also completely STARES DOWN the receiver before he throws it. Don't understand how he doesn't have more pics.

This is the most over used complaint by anyone trying to bash him. Watch Brady, Brees, Manning especially.......they ALL stare down the WR on hot routes and when they are first read options. Watch the tapes, it's very common with every QB on a lot of plays.

 

[royalshank]

Dan missed wide open players all the, they all do. Just like he had bad games and made mistakes all the time. What made Dan great was he had confidence in himself. That's what makes the great ones great. But to imply he didn't miss wide open players in most games IMO is kind of a silly thing to even imply.

Every game I ever went to see Dan play at some point, multiple times really during the game the boo birds would come out for Dan. People have a way of not remembering how things really were in Miami when he played. Why do you think they booed him, because he didn't miss wide open players or make a bad decision?

Every QB makes mistakes and misses wide open players.

thats not what I was saying - I was simply saying that he could read the field and find the open guy faster than most who ever played the game. I said nothing about competing passes or not completing passes

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

thats not what I was saying - I was simply saying that he could read the field and find the open guy faster than most who ever played the game. I said nothing about competing passes or not completing passes

This is true. Marino is easily the best quarterback I've ever seen. He just had a gift.

My dad swears that Joe Namath (before he wrecked his knee) and Johnny Unitas were as good, though, or maybe even better. I'm too young to have watched 'em, though.

 

[ohall]

thats not what I was saying - I was simply saying that he could read the field and find the open guy faster than most who ever played the game. I said nothing about competing passes or not completing passes

Personally I do not agree that Marino read the defense faster than most. IMO his ability to play a mind game against defenses was AVG at best. What he did that was above everyone who ever played the game, and probably to this day, Dan the Man had/has the fastest release in football. I love Marino, but the mental game was not his strong suit.

As far as RT17, I agree. The moment he reads it to when it is released something is not right, at this moment. IMO has to do with a lack of trust with his OL and the pass receivers. This last game IMO the 1st 3 quarters RT17 was on task and making very good decisions, he was on target with the pass catchers. His receivers let him down with drops.

 

[Sarnics13]

Personally I do not agree that Marino read the defense faster than most. IMO his ability to play a mind game against defenses was AVG at best. What he did that was above everyone who ever played the game, and probably to this day, Dan the Man had/has the fastest release in football. I love Marino, but the mental game was not his strong suit.

As far as RT17, I agree. The moment he reads it to when it is released something is not right, at this moment. IMO has to do with a lack of trust with his OL and the pass receivers. This last game IMO the 1st 3 quarters RT17 was on task and making very good decisions, he was on target with the pass catchers. His receivers let him down with drops.

Do you have a death wish? Do you know where you are?

In all seriousness, that statement is incredibly invalid. His ability to see what was going on and find the open man quickly was uncanny. His quick release only made it that much more impressive.

 

[ohall]

Do you have a death wish? Do you know where you are?

In all seriousness, that statement is incredibly invalid. His ability to see what was going on and find the open man quickly was uncanny. His quick release only made it that much more impressive.

The truth is the truth.

 

[royalshank]

Personally I do not agree that Marino read the defense faster than most. IMO his ability to play a mind game against defenses was AVG at best. What he did that was above everyone who ever played the game, and probably to this day, Dan the Man had/has the fastest release in football. I love Marino, but the mental game was not his strong suit.

As far as RT17, I agree. The moment he reads it to when it is released something is not right, at this moment. IMO has to do with a lack of trust with his OL and the pass receivers. This last game IMO the 1st 3 quarters RT17 was on task and making very good decisions, he was on target with the pass catchers. His receivers let him down with drops.

we can agree to disagree on Marino. I'm just going on what I saw in watching him - again I go back to that contrast of watching him vs O'Donnell and it was just two completely different levels of play. Quick release but you still have to know where to go with it.

 

[ohall]

we can agree to disagree on Marino. I'm just going on what I saw in watching him - again I go back to that contrast of watching him vs O'Donnell and it was just two completely different levels of play. Quick release but you still have to know where to go with it.

It's well documented Marino would throw into coverages that he never should have. He made throws, simply that no one else can get away with, even today. This is the same QB that would constantly option out of running plays. It's his mentality. Marino did what he wanted to do, whether it was the right thing/throw for the coverage or not.

My point is he basically spent no time reading coverages, besides who was going to cover who he thought was his best Dolphins receiver at that moment.

 

[slk018]

This is the most over used complaint by anyone trying to bash him. Watch Brady, Brees, Manning especially.......they ALL stare down the WR on hot routes and when they are first read options. Watch the tapes, it's very common with every QB on a lot of plays.

Except they go to another option if it isn't there quickly! They do not keep staring and throw it incomplete bc they don't wanna throw a pick, or take a sack.
Tannehill looks like Jeff Driskell out there. Look you can read a good coverage pre snap and throw it there every day and still have some success. But, he will stare and freeze up. A great example of this was the 3rd and 1 last week someone posted a picture of. Also, there was a play last year late in the season, he was staring at Clay who fell down. he just stood there looking at Clay on the ground until he took a sack.
Luckily, he throws a great comeback/deep out. So when he predetermines Hartline on a comeback he usually drills it. This year they are using Wallace in a curl instead

 

[royalshank]

It's well documented Marino would throw into coverages that he never should have. He made throws, simply that no one else can get away with, even today. This is the same QB that would constantly option out of running plays. It's his mentality. Marino did what he wanted to do, whether it was the right thing/throw for the coverage or not.

My point is he basically spent no time reading coverages, besides who was going to cover who he thought was his best Dolphins receiver at that moment.

Well that's a bit different - he absolutely threw balls into places few could and even fewer would dare - that's part of what made him so dangerous.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Personally I do not agree that Marino read the defense faster than most. IMO his ability to play a mind game against defenses was AVG at best. What he did that was above everyone who ever played the game, and probably to this day, Dan the Man had/has the fastest release in football. I love Marino, but the mental game was not his strong suit.

Don Shula disagrees with you. I think you are talking about a slightly different thing. In the same documentary, Ron Jaworski admits that Marino was not an "X's and O's" guy that was going to diagram plays, but he saw the field and coverages quicker than anyone.

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The truth is the truth.

Truth?

 

[BLUEFISH]

If you attended the games more often, then you would know almost every play any QB misses wide open players. I use to see Marino consistently not see wide open players. I'm not sure what play this was, but it looks like to me his progression was deep/mid to a short pass. If that's the case, what's the problem?

The problem is he didn't complete the pass to a open receiver this thing about getting the ball to Wallace is getting out of hand find the open receiver and get him the ball drive the ball down field and score is way more important
then targeting Wallace 11-12 times and getting 5 receptions and to compare him to Dan Marino ( omg ) this offense was to be up tempo going and getting it and all I see is pass incomplete to Wallace 3rd and 1 after 2-3 runs of 5-6 yards from Miller and what do we do throw incomplete pass been following this team since 1970 and I have never been more upset with team Tannehill has to get better in a hurry if throwing to Wallace and making the play works then fine but there are other plays out there that we leave on the field

 

[fakespike]

Sorry OP but your picture tells me nothing except that if he threw to clay, he was getting lit up as soon as he catches the ball (if he didn't drop it). So I guess your picture is worth about 10, or 1000[SUP]1/3[/SUP], words.