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If the Colts go undefeated...

3 out of 4 is more impressive.

They are both incredible accomplishments.
 
With what will happen to the colts in the upcoming seasons you will see that winning 3 out 4 sb's is definately the greater feat. James will be, or should be gone soon, not to the dolphins, but somewhere where they will pay him rediculously to try and produce, like San Fran or Arizona or wherever his edgeness decides. The Colts will crumble around Peyton and Marvin in the years to come, and if they do win the superbowl undefeated they won't win it again.
 
Dolfan4life! said:
I couldn't disagree more. Today's NFL is far more watered down than in 1972. There were 6 less teams back then than there are now, that's over 300 players that are on teams now that wouldn't have been back then. That equates to the bottom 10 players on each of today's current teams being replaced by better players.
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I take your argument and view it the completely opposite way. Teams had no salary restrictions, better player pool (due to less teams), and were not in a system specifically designed to keep teams from doing what the Pats have done and what the Colts are on the brink of.
 
dolphan117 said:
Man thats a tough call, I think I would go with the undeafeated season but its a toss up. I do have to say that if the colts do it there is no one I would rather see go undeafeated than Dungy and the Colts. I always thought he was a class guy, Peyton and Marvin too.
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Have to agree, its Tony Dungy's turn, he got gyped out of a SB win with Tampa and he's one fine evaluator and a class guy.....But I can't help wishing it was the Fins going for the record.........
 
Dolfan4life! said:
I couldn't disagree more. Today's NFL is far more watered down than in 1972. There were 6 less teams back then than there are now, that's over 300 players that are on teams now that wouldn't have been back then. That equates to the bottom 10 players on each of today's current teams being replaced by better players.
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I never looked at it that way but you do have a point. Although you must agree that the media scrutiny is 50 times worse than it was back then. I think the simple fact that they have to win two more games would cement the 2005 Colt's accomplishment as superior to the 72' Dolphins' in most people's eyes should the Colts actually do it. It wouldn't be the end of the world for the 72' Phins but it will certainly take them down a notch. I'm hoping like hell they don't do it but they're looking pretty doggone tough right about now...But I will say that the Steelers game did offer some hope. I think the Steelers showed the rest of the league that you can hang with them with the right schemes in place but you can't make mistakes or you're history. The Colts don't make many mistakes. If the right Chargers team shows up then they have a real shot...Seattle is probably the best bet...And once in the playoffs anything can happen.
 
minus said:
I agree....

It is way more difficult now to go undefeated than it it was back in '72.
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No offense, but your 21 years old, how would you know anything about how difficult it was in 1972?

If it was so easy back in old days? How come no team ever did it except the Dolphins?

The bottomline, the Colts still have a lot of games to win before this talk is even neccesary.
 
Dolfan4life! said:
I couldn't disagree more. Today's NFL is far more watered down than in 1972. There were 6 less teams back then than there are now, that's over 300 players that are on teams now that wouldn't have been back then. That equates to the bottom 10 players on each of today's current teams being replaced by better players.
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Exactly, its funny, it always seems to be fans that aren't even old enough to remember Marino's best years that think they are experts about the NFL in the early 70's.:lol:
 
Tough call, but I'd have to go with the undefeated season. Loads of pressure. Essentially, the pressure the Colts have right now will double over each week the rest of the season, all the way to the SuperBowl, presuming they get there.

The Patsies streak is amazing by all means, but a Colts undefeated season in this time of parity would beat it by a nose.
 
Since '72 there have been two serious challenges to the Dolphin's accomplishment, '85 Bears and this year's Colts. There seems to be a new potential dynasty every 7 years or so. The Steelers followed the Dolphins. The Cowboys were up there as were the Niners. The Bills went to four straight. The Eagles made three straight conference championships. It seems to me that there are teams in position to win 3 out of 4 more often. IMO the perfect season is more impressive but either way it's close.
 
If they have a perfect season I'm really going to hate hearing about it week in and week out for the next couple of years on every sunday.
 
Not to take anything away from Indianapolis, what they're doing is amazing... but they haven't played anyone from the NFC East, NFC South, or AFC West (until they play San Diego) which are the 3 hardest divisions in the NFL in my honest opinion. Indy has played Houston twice, Tennessee twice, Baltimore, Cleveland, St. Louis, and San Francisco. They did how ever blow out NE and PIT and played a close games against Jacksonville and Cincinnati but I would like to see if they could've went undefeated playing teams like the Giants, Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles, Panthers, Falcons, Bucs, Chiefs, Broncos, and we will find out how their fair against San Diego and Seattle whom look to be the only two teams left (maybe Jacksonville) who can stop from them from going undefeated. Not to mention, they haven't played any tough colds games nor will they unless you want to count Seattle. Dungy has already said if they have division, a second round bye, and homefield throughout the playoffs locked up... they won't be playing their starters (and would have no reason to except to go undefeated). Lets see if he sticks to that. Anyway, I think 3 out of the last 4 years is equally impressive if not more impressive than an undefeated season + Super Bowl simply because I haven't been impressed with Indy's schedule and 3 SB's out of 4 years was unthinkable these days with FA and Salary cap until the Patriots did it.
 
They HAVE to win the super bowl. But if they take it to 19-0 and win it all, then i'd say they were the better team. Because Miami played a sub-parr schedule in a sub-parr NFL back then, and honestly as many would agree the 73 team blew away the 72 team and they LOST 2 games. Dont get me wrong, i loved those 72 Phins. But even if the Colts go undefeated i still consider them a better team than the Phins, just like i did of the 85 Bears and 98 Vikings and one of the Broncos teams who started 13-0.
 
QB2RonnieTD23 said:
They HAVE to win the super bowl. But if they take it to 19-0 and win it all, then i'd say they were the better team. Because Miami played a sub-parr schedule in a sub-parr NFL back then, and honestly as many would agree the 73 team blew away the 72 team and they LOST 2 games. Dont get me wrong, i loved those 72 Phins. But even if the Colts go undefeated i still consider them a better team than the Phins, just like i did of the 85 Bears and 98 Vikings and one of the Broncos teams who started 13-0.
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Its easy that the 72 Dolphins played in a sub-par NFL back then but remember the rules were different back then. For example, INDY'S recievers wouldn't be running around wild like they now due to the new NFL rules on touching the recievers. You can't take nothing away from them, if they due I will be happy for them. I am tired of focusing on our past. I wasn't alive back then to see them win the SB'S so I am more concerned of seeing them win now.
 
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