IF the Dolphins lose to the Jets on Sunday...

[DuderinoN703]

If the Dolphins lose to the Jets on Sunday, that will mean they dropped 2 crucial games against inferior opponents that kept us from the playoffs. After the Patriots victory, the Dolphins could get into the playoffs by winning the final 2 games.

If this nightmare scenario occurs, which option in the poll would you prefer and why? Who is most responsible for this failure?

I want Philbin back next year. Sherman can go. Ireland can go too but who would replace him?

 

[67Stang]

I don't see anyone doing much worse than Ireland.....his drafts have been below average at best. Also, his blatant disregard for a known problem in the offensive line during the off-season is inexcusable! Seriously, WTF was he thinking? You can't hope for the best in this league and succeed! The whole world knew it was an issue and he didn't do squat...SMH

 

[67Stang]

The other thing is people are bashing Sherman, but how would you like to be an offensive coordinator and know you can't call a lot of plays because you can't protect your QB? I think he limits his calls to what we can execute based on our obvious struggles on the O-Line!

 

[SkapePhin]

I don't see anyone doing much worse than Ireland.....his drafts have been below average at best. Also, his blatant disregard for a known problem in the offensive line during the off-season is inexcusable! Seriously, WTF was he thinking? You can't hope for the best in this league and succeed! The whole world knew it was an issue and he didn't do squat...SMH

Every GM since Jimmy Johnson has been worse than Ireland.

Ireland's drafts are AVERAGE. Not below average, not above average... just AVERAGE. The reason being:

He usually gets a solid starter in the 1st round. That is important considering so many GMs in Dolphins past have drafted NON-CONTRIBUTORS in the 1st round. At least he does that right, and its important.

He struggles in rounds 2-3.

He can find some starters in the later rounds.

Ireland's drafts have been adequate, but NOT spectacular, and that is the problem. He is bad at identifying STARS. He hasn't drafted a single star player, just a bunch of decent to good guys, with a few clunkers thrown in.

But it is false to say that it is hard to do much worse. Actually, the odds are we will replace Ireland with someone who DOES draft worse if we look at the percentages across the league and our past here in Miami.

 

[67Stang]

His drafts are below average and why we have been a 6-7 win team since 2009. Also when your starters are coming from the later rounds, you are doing something wrong....and why we are where we are, where we have been, and where we will continue to be until we can find someone that can draft in the earlier rounds and build a team properly. I am not going to argue the past GM point, but just because he has sucked less isn't a good thing. We have sucked for a while due to our bad drafting and Ireland is part of that.

 

[SkapePhin]

His drafts are below average and why we have been a 6-7 win team since 2009. Also when your starters are coming from the later rounds, you are doing something wrong....and why we are where we are, where we have been, and where we will continue to be until we can find someone that can draft in the earlier rounds and build a team properly.

The average draft nets about 2-3 starters and 2-3 depth players. That's about where Ireland is. Go back and look at some of the Dolphins drafts between 2000 and 2007 and compare them to Ireland's. Ireland will look like Bill Polian in his prime in comparison.

 

[psfign]

judas priest...lets create a 'fire everybody' thread every ****ing day

 

[SabanHater]

I can totally see this team losing to the jets this weekend. I have no confidence in them whatsoever

 

[artdnj]

If they come out flat in this game heads need to roll. Home game with playoff implications against a bitter rival, can't draw it up any better.

They better also be aware of trickery in the form of on side kick, fake punts, reverses, statue of liberty, and attacking blitzes from everybody. Sexy is playing for his coaching life and he's not embarrassed to tell his team a time or three about it.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

Ireland's gotta go. Unless, of course, you enjoy the mediocrity.

 

[DolfanISS]

Junc will be ribbing us all offseason for the Jets knocking us out the playoffs and we'll be making excuses, pot meet kettle. If we lose to the Jets I do not care about the other outcomes, the Jets knocked us out. Lets not pull a Junc and talk about how it would not have mattered (spin it).

 

[SkapePhin]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia/draft.htm

2000 Draft: 1 multiyear starter (Wade), 2 depth guys (Dyer & Freeman), 3 bums
2001 Draft: 1 epic bust (Fletcher), 1 good multiyear starter (Chambers), 1 average multiyear starter (Greenwood), 2 depth players (Minor & Draper), 4 bums
2002 Draft: 1 average multyear starter (McKinney), 1 good multiyear starter (McMichael), 3 bums
2003 Draft: 1 epic bust (Moore), 2 decent multiyear starters FOR OTHER TEAMS (Smith & Lee), 1 great multiyear starter (Bell), 5 bums
2004 Draft: 1 decent multiyear starter (Carey), 5 bums
2005 Draft: 1 good multiyear starter (Brown), 2 decent multiyear starters (Roth & Crowder), 1 decent multiyear starter FOR OTHER TEAMS (Vickerson), 2 bums
2006 Draft: 1 epic bust (allen), 1 decent multiyear starter FOR OTHER TEAMS (Aromashadu), 3 bums
2007 Draft: 2 epic busts (Ginn & Beck), 2 good multiyear starters (Soliai & Fields), 1 decent multiyear starter FOR OTHER TEAMS (Satele), 5 bums

----Ireland Drafts----
2008 Draft: 1 great multiyear starter (Long), 3 decent multiyear starters (Merling, Henne & Langford), 1 decent multiyear starter FOR OTHER TEAMS (Thomas), 4 bums
2009 Draft: 1 good multiyear starter (Hartline), 3 decent multiyear starters (Davis, Smith & Clemons), 1 epic bust (White), 4 bums
2010 Draft: 2 good multiyear starters (Odrick & Jones), 2 average multiyear starters (Misi & Jerry), 1 great depth (Carrol), 1 decent depth (Spitler), 2 bums
2011 Draft: 2 great multiyear starters (Pouncey & Clay), 1 below average multiyear starter (Thomas), 1 epic bust (Gates), 1 good depth (Wilson, 1 depth (Kearse)
2012 Draft: 2 good multiyear starters (Tannehill & Vernon), 1 epic bust (Martin), 2 good role players (Miller & Matthews), 2 depth (Egnew & Randall), 2 bums (Kaddu & Cunningham)
(Skipping 2013 because it is too soon to rate)

If you look at the above drafts, there is no way you can say Ireland's drafts have been WORSE than the previous 7 years of drafts. Ireland is AVERAGE. Everyone before him was BELOW AVERAGE.

 

[67Stang]

The average draft nets about 2-3 starters and 2-3 depth players. That's about where Ireland is. Go back and look at some of the Dolphins drafts between 2000 and 2007 and compare them to Ireland's. Ireland will look like Bill Polian in his prime in comparison.

2-3 starters and 2-3 in-depth that are getting us at or below .500 every year.

 

[SkapePhin]

2-3 starters ans 2-3 in-depth that are getting us at or below .500 every year.

Which is an improvement over what happened 2000-2007, finishing several games below .500 multiple years. I am just saying let's not automatically assume that the next GM will be BETTER than Ireland. I think the chances are we may end up with a worse one.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

If you look at the above drafts, there is no way you can say Ireland's drafts have been WORSE than the previous 7 years of drafts. Ireland is AVERAGE. Everyone before him was BELOW AVERAGE.

And what exactly about that excites you???