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If Tua retires this offseason...

Who should the fins pursue as starting QB next year if Tua retires?

  • Tom Brady

    Votes: 46 22.2%

  • Derek Carr

    Votes: 29 14.0%

  • Lamar Jackson

    Votes: 41 19.8%

  • Aaron Rodgers

    Votes: 58 28.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 50 24.2%
  • Total voters
    207
  • Poll closed .
I'm going after Rodgers in that group. Our window is now with this offensive talent.

Rodgers does not have a no trade clause in his contract so he could be traded to a team as well. The timing of the option should give the Packers all the way until the end of training camp to move him. The cap charge here would depend on when he was traded. If Rodgers were to be traded prior to June 1st the Packers would take on a $40,313,750 cap hit in 2023. If he was traded after June 1st it would be a $15,833,570 cap hit in 2023 with $24,480,000 due in 2024. This assumes that the Packers did not exercise the option before the trade. If the option is exercised then the trade number spikes to nearly $100 million. There should be no need to exercise the option until the last possible day.

For the team acquiring Rodgers they would be on the hook for the salary for the year. The cap charge would be $59,515,000 if they do not exercise his option and $15.79 million if they were to exercise the option. Rodgers has an injury guarantee of $49.25 million for 2024 but that does not become fully guaranteed until 5 days after the 2023 Super Bowl. If Rodgers was cut after 2023 it would cost the team $43.725 million on the 2024 cap. If he retired they could split that as $14.575 million in 2024 and $29.15 million in 2025 using a similar June 2nd date as mentioned above in the retirement option.
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If Tua retires this offseason I would make a strong (legal) push for Brady this year and then try my damndest to find a diamond in the rough at draft time to sit behind him for 1 to 2 years.

We don't have much in the way of assests to draft a kid and even less to sign a good vet. Hell Brady would most likely have to take a "I have too much money to care about salary" discount to sign with us. Any other free agent QB is going to want full and real money. Brady probably will too in the end unless he signs with us just because he wants to play New England twice a year.

Best case scenario I can see is that we package somebody like Howard with our second (and maybe a third) to move up into the late 1st round to grab somebody that is rough but can be developed.
 
NY8123 said:
Tua isn't retiring.

If Tom Brady is the QB of Miami in 2023 this 45 year fan will no longer root for Miami. Of that shortlist I'd take Carr or Rodgers.
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Could you imagine?

Talk was that Ross was going to offer him part ownership to bring him in.

Could you ****ing imagine Tom ****ing Brady as part owner of the Dolphins?

If I was Dan Marino I'd walk right the **** out with fingers raised ala Bryan Cox.
 
Marcel on WGR talking dolphins. Just laid out what he thinks will happen with Tua

He thinks if Tua would have stayed healthy he would be getting paid this offseason like all the young QBs getting locked up after year 3.

However now he thinks the 5th year option gets declined. Tua has to play year 4. Keep performing and stay healthy. If he doesn’t he is likely done with the Dolphins.
 
Tua isn’t retiring. This fanbase mystifies me. After 20 years of Sage Rosenfels, we just had a 24 year old QB lead the NFL in passer rating and take us to the playoffs, and all anyone can talk about is which geriatric has-been or never-was (looking at you, Derek Carr) we should replace him with next year.

We need a tight end. We need a left guard. We need a running back. We need a backup swing tackle. We need a backup quarterback. We need two more off-ball linebackers. We need two more cornerbacks. We need another safety. We need to replace our special teams coordinator.

We emphatically do not need a new starting QB.
 
Tua will be the QB in 2023. Bring in another vet (not Teddy) and draft someone in the mid rounds to compete with Skylar.

Done.
 
I just dont see where 30-50 million per year is coming from to sign one of these guys without losing Tyreek Hill, Christian Wilkins type players.

GB couldnt afford Adams because of Rodgers.
 
fins317 said:
Found an article at Joe Bucks (Tampa Bay fan site):

Brady-To-Dolphins Chatter Heats Up (Part II)​

January 12th, 2023
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Tom Brady will be a free agent in 8 1/2 weeks and a few hits to the head of the Dolphins quarterback has sharpened the related speculation.
The folks who told the NFL world Brady to Miami with Sean Payton was a real thing last winter, ProFootballTalk.com (and many scoffed at the NBC report), went there again this morning.
Nothing concrete, just that a Brady move to Miami is “definitely on the table.”
For those unaware, the Dolphins were slapped with heavy penalties by the NFL for tampering with Brady and Sean Payton as they were under contract with their respective teams. But there was no ruling by the NFL that the Dolphins couldn’t do business with Brady or Payton.
Brady’s two youngest kids live in the Miami area, so it appears, and he has a home there. But perhaps more important to his decision is a powerful Dolphins offense and a fresh challenge.
Miami QB Tua Tagovailoa has had a string of concussions and will miss their playoff game this weekend.
Joe truly believes Brady hasn’t made a decision on his 2023 destination. So the Bucs remain in the running.
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Wonder how it works if Tua were to take a year off if his contract just gets paused. Brady signs one year deal and Miami gets to go all out for one year while still remaining faithful and committed to Tua in the future. Tua gets a year to let his brain heal fully while Miami takes a one year run at a Super Bowl. I truly think Tua is the future and we’d be crazy to try to move on but this seems like it’s beneficial to both parties without having to choose one or the other.
 
Marino2.0 said:
Tua isn’t retiring. This fanbase mystifies me. After 20 years of Sage Rosenfels, we just had a 24 year old QB lead the NFL in passer rating and take us to the playoffs, and all anyone can talk about is which geriatric has-been or never-was (looking at you, Derek Carr) we should replace him with next year.

We need a tight end. We need a left guard. We need a running back. We need a backup swing tackle. We need a backup quarterback. We need two more off-ball linebackers. We need two more cornerbacks. We need another safety. We need to replace our special teams coordinator.

We emphatically do not need a new starting QB.
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Be mystified all you want, however...
1) Early retirement is not as taboo or rare as you're painting it to be, and it's not out of the question with Tua. See Andrew Luck.
2) What would you rather have: a QB who is always near the top in passer rating but injured and can't play 40% of the season, or a QB who is top-15 in rating but plays every game? I would rather have the latter.
 
Avigatorx said:
Could you imagine?

Talk was that Ross was going to offer him part ownership to bring him in.

Could you ****ing imagine Tom ****ing Brady as part owner of the Dolphins?

If I was Dan Marino I'd walk right the **** out with fingers raised ala Bryan Cox.
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Bet Tommy boy would jump at part ownership. That FTX stuff sounds like it might of done a job on him and some other celebrities.
 
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