I'm kind of left scratching my head a bit.

[SackArtist]

If you looked closer at the guys you listed you would have realized 1 thing. Those guys are all vets who started playoff games (yes even Gus). A few of them even have Sb appearances. They were brought in for leadership cause they all have reps (except maybe Gus) as leaders.

I agree, that definately makes sense. Kevin Carter is a role model. Not every young player has the chance to play and learn from players like him. This definately helps players like Vickerson and Wright with their early struggles in the NFL. Saban isn't going to just put a whole bunch of players on the field that have "potential". Those players with "potential" have a great opportunity to learn from succesful players that have been to the Super Bowl before. I think it's similiar to what the Eagles do. For example, they had a very good secondary with Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor. But they still spent high draft picks on Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown. While Vincent and Taylor were aging, Sheppard and Brown were learning from them. Now they're the starters and not only have they replaced them, but they're a good young tandem. You can't just expect to develope young players without anyone to guide them.

 

[phinfan2003]

i think poole's recovery must be coming along faster than expected and we need to just through the first 6-10 weeks injury free in the secondary.

I can't see how Poole comes back this season but if he does, he's not going to be very effective IMO. This injury takes some time for one to be back at full speed.

 

[Boik14]

That statement had nothing to do with the waiver wire but rather his offseason moves both draft and free agency. Other than Crowder and R Brown I cant think of any top 25 players we brought in who have youth on their side. Granted maybe the vets were brought in for their experience and will be dumped right away next year but it seems that what Saban has done is bring in great bench players and over 30 yrs old veterans. Our bottom 25 is looking good, the problem in my estimation is he's done nothing to make the top 25 better in the long run unless you consider bringing Ricky williams in a long term solution but then why draft ronnie brown?

Carter has shown he can be an highly effective DT. Thats 1 top 25 player. We'll have to wait and see on the draft but imo ronnie, Roth, Crowder and Daniels will be starters here for a while so thats could be 4 more. Getting RW back is another. Thats potentially 6. How much more can you ask of a coach in a single offseason?

 

[adamprez2003]

Carter has shown he can be an highly effective DT. Thats 1 top 25 player. We'll have to wait and see on the draft but imo ronnie, Roth, Crowder and Daniels will be starters here for a while so thats could be 4 more. Getting RW back is another. Thats potentially 6. How much more can you ask of a coach in a single offseason?

I dont see Carter being around when we are ready to compete so I view that as a stop gap. Roth doesnt look like a starter but rather a situational pass rusher. Daniels looks like he may start this year but he's probably better suited for the nickel. I will say that out of all of those Daniels has the best chance of being a number two starting cornerback so instead of two we may have added three but I'm not so sure thats even the case. I'm willing to let him get his feet wet this year, make his mistakes and learn from them, but next year he better start adding more than two or three starters to this team otherwise we're going to be stuck on the bottom for a long time. If Ricky Williams is going to be on this team for three years than Ronnie Brown was a waste of a pick. We couldve bagged a legit starting CB, DE or LB or on offense an offensive lineman. I am assuming that Ricky is dealt after this year but with Saaban who knows

 

[DaMiAmIDoLpHiNz]

Maybe it was the whole "best players available" idea.
Who can tell at this point.

I dunno about dropping the players that he did, I guess he just felt that they were better players and have more potential.

What I REALLY wanted to say was that your sig is sooooo wrong...

 

[Boik14]

I dont see Carter being around when we are ready to compete so I view that as a stop gap. Roth doesnt look like a starter but rather a situational pass rusher. Daniels looks like he may start this year but he's probably better suited for the nickel. I will say that out of all of those Daniels has the best chance of being a number two starting cornerback so instead of two we may have added three but I'm not so sure thats even the case. I'm willing to let him get his feet wet this year, make his mistakes and learn from them, but next year he better start adding more than two or three starters to this team otherwise we're going to be stuck on the bottom for a long time. If Ricky Williams is going to be on this team for three years than Ronnie Brown was a waste of a pick. We couldve bagged a legit starting CB, DE or LB or on offense an offensive lineman. I am assuming that Ricky is dealt after this year but with Saaban who knows

What you said about Carter all depends on how far away you think we are from a playoff spot. Personally I think we're a competant Qb and OL away and thats it.

Roth has improved every game. No reason that wouldnt continue. People said the same thing about Jt when he first arrived.

Daniels is a rookie and rookie CB's typically have an adjustment period. Daniels is good enough to be a starter especially in a system that doesnt require press man coverage where his lack of speed would constantly hinder him. In that type of scheme he'd be better suited at FS.

 

[adamprez2003]

What you said about Carter all depends on how far away you think we are from a playoff spot. Personally I think we're a competant Qb and OL away and thats it.

Roth has improved every game. No reason that wouldnt continue. People said the same thing about Jt when he first arrived.

Daniels is a rookie and rookie CB's typically have an adjustment period. Daniels is good enough to be a starter especially in a system that doesnt require press man coverage where his lack of speed would constantly hinder him. In that type of scheme he'd be better suited at FS.

I dont see Roth as a starter and i dont think he has JT's potential. (side note every time I see him I think of Charlie Frye who I was screaming for us to get so I'll probably focus more on his negatives than is warranted). I liked the Daniels pick dont get me wrong. My point was more of we have to really concentrate on getting some young starters next year and more than just the few we got this year. This year for me was plugging up the depth and next year has to be the year where we send some of our starters (especially o-line) to the bench where they are better suited for. I think we're at least two maybe three years away from the playoffs due to not addressing the QB position this year

 

[rainmaker1313]

Call me crazy, but the players that are signed are from the Panthers/Bucs/Jets/Pats. As everyone knows, we play the NFC south this year. Could it be more than a coinscidence that he signed players from teams that we will play this season.

You are Captain Insane-o

 

[Boik14]

I dont see Roth as a starter and i dont think he has JT's potential. (side note every time I see him I think of Charlie Frye who I was screaming for us to get so I'll probably focus more on his negatives than is warranted). I liked the Daniels pick dont get me wrong. My point was more of we have to really concentrate on getting some young starters next year and more than just the few we got this year. This year for me was plugging up the depth and next year has to be the year where we send some of our starters (especially o-line) to the bench where they are better suited for. I think we're at least two maybe three years away from the playoffs due to not addressing the QB position this year

Youre right we do need more starters. But I think we also found at least a few for the long term this offseason. Roth is certainly a starter. He has the talent but like every rookie hes not a finished product yet. i can understand you wanted frye instead of Roth; I wanted Orton and not Daniels. But we got what we got so we hope for the best right? And from what I have seen I think there is reason to believe NS got the best players for what he wants from this team.

As far as what you said about Ricky and Ronnie earlier, I had that thought also. But I think long term this will be great for Ronnie's career and possibly pro long it due to less usage and being able to ease him in. Even if RW doesnt ever get dealt or sign another contract we've taken the heat off Ronnie and when he hits that rookie wall we have a slew of backs to pick him up.

Finally, I think our Qb could hold us back but 2-3 years? I dont think so simply because we cant be certain whether Saban wants a rookie, an inexperienced pro like rivers, or maybe Brees or Couch who are young vets?

 

[pwn3dyo]

You are Captain Insane-o

That may be so, but i think its very possible Saban picked up the players just because they know, and could tell him some of the plays they like to run. Lets be honest, the only player who had a realistic shot of playing was Mario Edwards. We just swapped players who knew the opposing forces playbook.

Week 2/15- NYJ
Week 3- Carolina
Week 6 (game 5)- TB
Week 10/17-NE



Its also always good to know the opposing forces playbook. Was this the sole reason for picking up these players? I doubt it, but i think it played a big role in who we picked up.