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In Defense Of Sherman

Southbeach 2 said:
Yeah, in Sherman's 40 years of coaching, he must have missed those options, and yet you and we come up with them. Philbin missed them as well.

Are we serious?
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In his 40 years of coaching how many times has he led the league in sacks?
 
roy_miami said:
New Englands game-plan against us last year was to stop the run and everything short, we saw Hartline get wide open deep several times but we weren't able to connect on any of them, Belichick's gamble payed off. It'll be interesting to see if they change it up this year now that we have Wallace, I have a feeling they'll test Tannehill's deep ball accuracy again (assuming he has time to throw). For the strategists out there, if you can reasonably assume New England's game plan will be to leave the deep ball open and stop everything underneath, what would your game-plan be?
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I would do the same thing they did last time even with Wallace. They shut us out last time. So until RT17 proves he can make throws and the line and backs can block long enough I would stick to that plan of attack.

Hopefully the Dolphins burn them several times for big plays.
 
I don't get the Sherman hate - he doesn't call a lot of weird plays like Dan Henning did. Most of our drives stall because of sacks. When Tannehill doesn't get heavy pressure in his face, our drives almost always end in points. Whoever compared him to Dan Henning is clueless.

Truth be told, most people that are complaining about Sherman as one of our problems have no idea what they are talking about.
 
Fins1971 said:
I would do the same thing they did last time even with Wallace. They shut us out last time. So until RT17 proves he can make throws and the line and backs can block long enough I would stick to that plan of attack.

Hopefully the Dolphins burn them several times for big plays.
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I think they will too, the question is should we take what they are giving us? I think I would, max protect and try to connect deep on the first play, rush up to the line and do it again. From there I would hit them hard with a lot of read option from the muddle huddle, don't let them make substitutions/adjustments. Rarely would I have Tannehill sitting back in a conventional pocket with just the O-line for protection.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Yeah, in Sherman's 40 years of coaching, he must have missed those options, and yet you and we come up with them. Philbin missed them as well.

Are we serious?
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I'm sure they know about all those options, the point is we aren't using them enough. The other point is you say we can't do some of that stuff because the line is too bad, I say we need to be doing that stuff because the line is bad.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Did anyone see what we were facing on 4th and 1 in the middle of the line? We had no shot. Watch the plays.
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I did watch and see Qbs make that play more often than not...it was inches not feet. Almost any defense is loaded to stop a QB sneak in that position but you still get it. Tannehill isn't aged Marino with a brace, he's a athletic, former receiver. Brady gets that all day even in a loaded box. You'll never convince me others wise on a 4th and a hair.
 
Southbeach 2 said:
Most here have been ripping Sherman. They have also been ripping the OL. How does one compare with the other?

Sherman has to call plays but, there has to be some blocking for them to work. Without any blocking, he is extremely limited in what he can call with expectations of success. What is he supposed to do?

He is stuck with the players, and their play, who were given to him, as he tries to sort out what may work. It ain't easy if the team cannot block. Think he may call some different plays with some blocking? I do.

Let's roll out. Let's run more. Let's move the pocket. Let's throw screens. Great ideas, until you realize that they all require blocking, which we do not have.

What is an OC to do?
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You adjust the gameplan to the talent and capabilities of the players on your roster...him deciding to constantly throw the ball and ignore the run with a bad offensive line (hell, add a RB or TE to max protect) is on him.
 
the problem with sherman is his plays are so predictable. 90 percent of our plays is out the shotgun. running, passing and playactions. the snap count for running is the same, the snap count for passing is the same, nothing is switched up. sherman imo should take some lessons from new orleans oc. their play calling was so mixed up against us we had no idea what was going on. they were passing out of running formations, running out of passing formations. sure lack of talent has him/us limited, but there are things that can be done to hide them...
 
Our offense really hasn't been the problem has it? I mean, if we exclude the blow out by the Saints, the other two losses were close games - the one against Buffalo being the most unfortunate (and that loss we found wasn't on him)
 
In defense of Sherman there has been some poor execution (nothing about the pick 6 last week was good, blocking, pass, route, ect) and the blocking (both by the OL and RBs) has limited us quite a bit. Sherman has had issues that he (and Philbin) need to be held accountable to, but there's plenty of blame to go around
 
The fact that we ran the ball twice in the second half agains the Saints when we had the lead to start the third quarter is baffling. Also, it's true that he does't have an offensive line to work with but if we know that he should know that. He needs to take our horrible line play into consideration while selecting plays. He needs to run plays that develop quickly and keep attempting to establish a running game. If he doesn't Tannehill is going to get killed and his growth is suffer. I would love for us to revamp the opine this off season and get a quality offensive c. to develop this young core of players on our offense.
 
It's west coast, I like it, and Mike's alright.
We need better QB play.
 
The first thing that gets me is why in the hell is Sherman not rolling T-Hill out or bootlegging him? It seems that when he is moving around or using his legs is when he makes a big play. He seems like a robot in the pocket. Roll the kid out for Christ sake! Second, Sherman lets stop with the two yard run up the middle on 1st down and then the out to Hartline or Wallace on 2nd down. Then on 3rd and long they bring the blitz and give up a sack. Over and over and over again. Why is it when we go to the two minute passing game we go right down the field and score? We cannot run the football and our screen game totally sucks and is never blocked well. Lets just stay in the hurry up and short passing game where we have success. Anyone else notice that?
 
UFGators said:
It's west coast, I like it, and Mike's alright.
We need better QB play.
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We are scoring over 22 points a game. A 4 point improvement from last year. A couple of the 3rd down calls I didn't like and more commitment to the run. But overall we have been in position to win most games. Players just need to execute.

Agree with you on QB play. RT17 has too get better. Most on this board see vast improvement. I'm not seeing it. Too many turnovers which is the one of the most important stats for a QB. 17 last year in 16 games. He has regressed in one of the most important areas. 11 turnovers in 6 games isn't going to get it done.

Yes improved line play could help, but the line had nothing to do with those 2 ugly Ints against buffalo. And even the final turnover RT17 needs to get down, abandon the play, and hold onto the ball. Clabo allowed the pressure but RT17 dropped the ball in a game situation where you just can't.

What good is improvement in other areas (td passes, yards per attempt) when your turnover rate almost doubles from last year?
 
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