I live in the mountains of NC, and saw Ingle Martin some. He is a developmental guy obviously but he has the arm size and his AA does not surprise me. Saban wanted him out of HS....I have posted before on these two guys...but watch for non combine guys, Richie Williams of Appalachian State (6-3, 212) and Matt Nordgren of Texas (6-4 1/2, 225). Richie Williams was a 5-10 running QB coming out of HS (now measures around 6-3 1/2), he outdueled Martin a couple times in his career and has all the same tools with better mobility. Led App. State to D1AA championship and has a big arm. Seeing them both Williams has a higher upside IMO. Nordgren was all everything recruit that threw a grand total of 14 passes in college..but has all the tools. someone else stated that the "down the line guys' have all exposed their flaws, which is true. Nordgren has not played enough to expose himself and Williams was such a late starter (and grower) in his college career...both these guys could develop as 7th round or PFA types.