Interpret these stats....

[DrAstroZoom]

Either that, or he looked at the receiver he was going to throw to as soon as he started dropping back. :escape:

 

[tastes like chi]

our offense was VERY predictable and even more so on 2nd and long and 3rd and long. I think in the Red zone he was playing smarter(knowing we had 3 already) and fron the 20-50 he was trying to make to many things happen with a poor line and no running game.

 

[inFINSible]

Either that, or he looked at the receiver he was going to throw to as soon as he started dropping back. :escape:

Wouldn't have been a whole lot of time to look anywhere else....

 

[inFINSible]

our offense was VERY predictable and even more so on 2nd and long and 3rd and long. I think in the Red zone he was playing smarter(knowing we had 3 already) and fron the 20-50 he was trying to make to many things happen with a poor line and no running game.

This is what he said yesterday....

He said he has become much more comfortable with Linehan's offense.

"Looking at where I started with the mini-camps to where I am now, I think, as a whole, I have made tremendous strides," he said.

"We have weapons here. We have a running back, wide receivers and skill guys that are great. It is not all up to the quarterback to put the ball in the air to make plays. You can depend on other guys."

:hmmm:......this is looking good.

 

[StLouisFinFan]

These are AJ Feeley's stats but, let's try to keep this thread from devolving into another back and forth session about AJ, please, just interpret the facts, maams....:)

By yard lines C A % Y YPA T/I 1stD 1stD% QBR
OWN 1-20 - 26/42 61.9 245 5.83 0 0 12 46.2 78.0
OWN 21-50 - 96/181 53.0 908 5.09 0 12 44 45.8 39.6
OPP 49-20 - 55/102 53.9 609 5.95 3 2 35 63.6 73.5
OPP 19-1 - 14/31 45.2 131 4.23 8 1 10 71.4 83.5​

I thought these were interesting stats from last year.....I really love the red zone stats....8 Tds and 1 Int.....That's great, that's 1 Td for every 4 attempts from inside the opponents 20....That's high dollar real estate and he got it at a bargain!.....I'm going to look at other QBs around the league to see how he compares after I'm done here...

But what is up with the abysmal stats between our own 20 and the 50??!! What causes that large of a disparity from the stats of every other spot on the field?? I'm totally confused about that, anybody got any ideas?

To me it's simple...it's where the vast majority of the plays occurred. Like any set of statistics, the more samples you have, the more the data tells you the truth. In my estimation, the stats between the 20 and 50 are most likely telling of how he did for the whole season, and is probably more telling of his success within that system. Why the better numbers in their territory? Not sure, but I'm guessing it is a product of the fact that those numbers have come from the tail end of a good drive vs. a bad drive that stalled at the other end. Can't prove this, but I'm a believer that when you get some momentum going, your success rate goes through roof. So, maybe the two sets of stats (opposing sides of the field) are simply apples and oranges. Dunno.

 

[3P]

More fun, and sometimes telling stats:

Split G Cmp Att Pct Yds Yds/Att TD Int 1st Sck Rtg
Blitz 11 55 125 44.0 629 5.0 7 7 32 13 55.1
QB Under Pressure 11 31 86 36.0 277 3.2 0 3 13 23 31.0
QB Knocked Down 11 10 45 22.2 114 2.5 0 3 5 20 11.8

 

[DrAstroZoom]

To me it's simple...it's where the vast majority of the plays occurred. Like any set of statistics, the more samples you have, the more the data tells you the truth. In my estimation, the stats between the 20 and 50 are most likely telling of how he did for the whole season, and is probably more telling of his success within that system. Why the better numbers in their territory? Not sure, but I'm guessing it is a product of the fact that those numbers have come from the tail end of a good drive vs. a bad drive that stalled at the other end. Can't prove this, but I'm a believer that when you get some momentum going, your success rate goes through roof. So, maybe the two sets of stats (opposing sides of the field) are simply apples and oranges. Dunno.

Nothing like looking to the obvious for answers.

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

More fun, and sometimes telling stats:

Split G Cmp Att Pct Yds Yds/Att TD Int 1st Sck Rtg
Blitz 11 55 125 44.0 629 5.0 7 7 32 13 55.1
QB Under Pressure 11 31 86 36.0 277 3.2 0 3 13 23 31.0
QB Knocked Down 11 10 45 22.2 114 2.5 0 3 5 20 11.8

wow 125 attempts while blitzing.

Wow he was blitzed 35% of his attempts. That stat would increase if you count the passes he couldn't get off because he was sacked.

 

[DrAstroZoom]

Wouldn't have been a whole lot of time to look anywhere else....

That's when you throw it away. I think that's what Linehan was referring to when he made the infamous comments defending Gus's performance. Frerotte has historically made better decisions when the play blew up than did Feeley. Now, I will say this historical trend imploded during the Tampa Bay game. But Feeley had much more time in both that game and the previous game.

The one disturbing thing to me, however (and something I haven't heard mentioned yet), is that even with time, Feeley is staring down receivers. On the TD throw to Farmer, Feeley never looked at another receiver. And had the defensive back not stumbled, the result may have been different. Now Feeley may have seen that stumble, but I thought the ball had already been released.

 

[DrAstroZoom]

More fun, and sometimes telling stats:

Split G Cmp Att Pct Yds Yds/Att TD Int 1st Sck Rtg
Blitz 11 55 125 44.0 629 5.0 7 7 32 13 55.1
QB Under Pressure 11 31 86 36.0 277 3.2 0 3 13 23 31.0
QB Knocked Down 11 10 45 22.2 114 2.5 0 3 5 20 11.8

I'd like to see some other QBs numbers under the same circumstances for comparison.

 

[LarryFinFan]

These are AJ Feeley's stats but, let's try to keep this thread from devolving into another back and forth session about AJ, please, just interpret the facts, maams....:)

By yard lines C A % Y YPA T/I 1stD 1stD% QBR
OWN 1-20 - 26/42 61.9 245 5.83 0 0 12 46.2 78.0
OWN 21-50 - 96/181 53.0 908 5.09 0 12 44 45.8 39.6
OPP 49-20 - 55/102 53.9 609 5.95 3 2 35 63.6 73.5
OPP 19-1 - 14/31 45.2 131 4.23 8 1 10 71.4 83.5​

I thought these were interesting stats from last year.....I really love the red zone stats....8 Tds and 1 Int.....That's great, that's 1 Td for every 4 attempts from inside the opponents 20....That's high dollar real estate and he got it at a bargain!.....I'm going to look at other QBs around the league to see how he compares after I'm done here...

But what is up with the abysmal stats between our own 20 and the 50??!! What causes that large of a disparity from the stats of every other spot on the field?? I'm totally confused about that, anybody got any ideas?

Last year, it was a porous OL that allowed teams to pull back their ears and wreak havoc on 3rd downs and lack of a running game...it's a little harder to blitz heavily in the red zone (as a D, you can expose yourself by blitzing) and your CBs don't have to cover the WRs as long.

As far as the disparity...in the middle of the field, with no running game, blitzing and heavy pressure on the QBs lead to missed pass attempts...the QB has to throw before the route is run...The hybrid Norv Turner offense last year dictated a set route for each reciever and there was no cutoff or blitz dump off patterns...that was because the RBs and TEs were usually left in the backfield to block...(Had NT been here, I'm sure that would have been adjusted, but I don't believe our coaches were capable of adjusting anything last year). That offense is predicated on a strong inside run game that bangs out 3 to 4 yards a pop, setting up quick, short passes in the middle over the top of the DL and LBs, but inside the secondary. That was impossible with our OL last year. The O coaches and Wanny made no adjustments...thats the way I read it...

 

[Canadianfishfan]

Not having Hot routes was probably the single most self destructive force our offense had. If we made adjustments at the line AJ would've likey had better stats, kept the defense al little more honest, and perhaps opened a lane or 2 for a few more runs.. But as Ricky is proving.. why should defense respect our runner... they just couldnt cut it.

 

[Fineas]

The difference in the stats is really just the ints. His comp. % and yards per attempt were better on his side of the field. The problem was that he had almost all of his picks and none of his TDs between our own 20 and the 50. Obviously, a guy will have fewer touchdowns of more than 50 yards than he will of less than 50 yards. AS observed above, he had more ints because he had more attempts between on the Fins' side of the field. I think you also see more ints. there because teams are more free to blitz when you are in your own territory.

 

[LarryFinFan]

That's when you throw it away. I think that's what Linehan was referring to when he made the infamous comments defending Gus's performance. Frerotte has historically made better decisions when the play blew up than did Feeley. Now, I will say this historical trend imploded during the Tampa Bay game. But Feeley had much more time in both that game and the previous game.

The one disturbing thing to me, however (and something I haven't heard mentioned yet), is that even with time, Feeley is staring down receivers. On the TD throw to Farmer, Feeley never looked at another receiver. And had the defensive back not stumbled, the result may have been different. Now Feeley may have seen that stumble, but I thought the ball had already been released.

Zoom, I just watched Feeley again against the Bucs and he did a lot better in that area.

Also, remember that AJ is product of the WCO...in that offense, the QB has to watch the recievers because they have the responsiblity to break off the pattern tree as they see the D coverage, not the QB...this isn't the case with either the hybird NT we ran last year or Linehan's O this year...the QB has to be able to check down..that is AJs biggest weakness in the system, as I see it now...

I still think AJs biggest issues is a 3rd offensive scheme in 3 years, (if you call last year's O a scheme)...I just think he needs time in the system. He is not a practice player, he is a gamer...He'd be better off starting than learning the O in the offseason and preaseason...but that may not fit into Saban and Linehan's plan...

 

[inFINSible]

To me it's simple...it's where the vast majority of the plays occurred. Like any set of statistics, the more samples you have, the more the data tells you the truth. In my estimation, the stats between the 20 and 50 are most likely telling of how he did for the whole season, and is probably more telling of his success within that system.

I agree with you about the momentum thing, as a mattaer of fact I've already pegged it as that, in this thread..:)

However.....the stats don't seem to be telling of the whole season or of success within the system....unless you believe that 2 Tds and 12 Ints are an indication of Favres' season.......or if Brees' 4 Tds and 6 Ints tell the story of how he played in that offense....McNabbs 2 tds 4 Ints....Big Ben's 0-8....Brady's 0-10...Culpepper's...5-5....