BleedinGreenNY
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Mark Sanchez but since he's not available I will reserve judgment until either player actually does something in this league.
No thank you, Sanchez is damaged goods, i like what Geno has done so far.
Mark Sanchez but since he's not available I will reserve judgment until either player actually does something in this league.
No thank you, Sanchez is damaged goods, i like what Geno has done so far.
No thank you, Sanchez is damaged goods, i like what Geno has done so far.
I just don't understand how anyone could want Sanchez. The guy's whole legacy is based on 4 road playoff wins in 2 years. Impressive, yes, but the guy was incredibly erratic throughout both seasons. In 2011 he did the same thing minus the playoff wins and then in 2012 he was awful.
He never proved himself to be anything more then a below average QB who was capable of elevating his level of play from time to time.
Idk what Geno is going to end up being, but so far i'm fairly happy with what i've seen and happy to put the Mark Sanchez days behind me.
I just don't understand how anyone could want Sanchez. The guy's whole legacy is based on 4 road playoff wins in 2 years. Impressive, yes, but the guy was incredibly erratic throughout both seasons. In 2011 he did the same thing minus the playoff wins and then in 2012 he was awful.
He never proved himself to be anything more then a below average QB who was capable of elevating his level of play from time to time.
Idk what Geno is going to end up being, but so far i'm fairly happy with what i've seen and happy to put the Mark Sanchez days behind me.
other than the 4 playoff wins which double the next most of any QB in Jets history. Is that it? he gave us a chance to reach 2 SBs which our overrated Ds choked in to prevent us from going. He got us closer to a SB than at any point since SB III.
He had ONE bad year, a year w/ the worst offensive talent in the league(healthy talent) and Tony Sparano running things w/ the Tebow distraction hovering over the team.
This is why Jet fans don't deserve a winner, we finally have a guy we can win big with and they want him gone b/c he sucked in a situation no QB could succeed in.
Obviously I know Mark's career as a Jet is over(barring something incredibly crazy) but I'd take a healthy Mark on my team any day. It's not his fault since 2010 the talent eroded around him.
He went from Braylon, Holmes, Cotch and Keller in 2010 to:
-losing Braylon and getting an older WR who just spent 2 years in prison, picking up an old WR in camp and having 3 of his top 5 weapons out of football the next year.
-in 2012 he saw Chaz Schilens starting, he lost Holmes and his favorite target keller, Clyde Gates couldn't make the dolphins yet he played a prominent role for us picking him up after the season began.
Mark has proven he can win big in this league but you need talent. heck, look at Eli w/ talent Mark has never had and he's 0-5. Look at ben w/ little talent(still much more than mark had last year). Unless your name is Tom Brady you need talent to throw and handoff to in this league. When mark had it he won big, when he didn't he sucked much like Eli and ben are sucking w/ much more talent right now.
I'll give you that Eli has looked like hot garbage without much support so far this season, but I think Ben is a bad example here. I watched the London game against the Vikings and I saw a quarterback keeping his team competitive in spite of a lackluster supporting cast. Yeah they are 0-4, but his td interception ratio is dead even which isn't great, but not comparable to Eli's season so far, or Sanchez's 2012.
other than the 4 playoff wins which double the next most of any QB in Jets history. Is that it? he gave us a chance to reach 2 SBs which our overrated Ds choked in to prevent us from going. He got us closer to a SB than at any point since SB III.
He had ONE bad year, a year w/ the worst offensive talent in the league(healthy talent) and Tony Sparano running things w/ the Tebow distraction hovering over the team.
This is why Jet fans don't deserve a winner, we finally have a guy we can win big with and they want him gone b/c he sucked in a situation no QB could succeed in.
Obviously I know Mark's career as a Jet is over(barring something incredibly crazy) but I'd take a healthy Mark on my team any day. It's not his fault since 2010 the talent eroded around him.
He went from Braylon, Holmes, Cotch and Keller in 2010 to:
-losing Braylon and getting an older WR who just spent 2 years in prison, picking up an old WR in camp and having 3 of his top 5 weapons out of football the next year.
-in 2012 he saw Chaz Schilens starting, he lost Holmes and his favorite target keller, Clyde Gates couldn't make the dolphins yet he played a prominent role for us picking him up after the season began.
Mark has proven he can win big in this league but you need talent. heck, look at Eli w/ talent Mark has never had and he's 0-5. Look at ben w/ little talent(still much more than mark had last year). Unless your name is Tom Brady you need talent to throw and handoff to in this league. When mark had it he won big, when he didn't he sucked much like Eli and ben are sucking w/ much more talent right now.
When you break down his game by game performances he's not that impressive. How many games did we win those years where Sanchez's play was lacking? How many games did we lose where his play was terrible? I give him all the credit in the world for those 4 playoff wins. But I eventually expected him to grow into a more consistent QB. He hasn't done that. He still even going into this preseason was throwing picks to defensive lineman.
That 2011 team with a receiver who spent 2 years in prison was sitting at 8-5 with three games left in the season. And if Sanchez played better that year we'd have had a better record even at that point (the Denver game comes to mind).
You make it seem like Jets fans just crap on every QB they have. It's not just us though, it's pretty much universally agreed that Sanchez isn't very good. Jets fans, NFL fans, analysts, they'd all tell you the same thing.
I don't blame him for 2012 but just because the talent around him is poor doesn't make it ok for him to make the same dumb mistakes he was making when the talent around him was good.
The difference between Ben and Eli compared to Mark is huge. Those two eventually put it all together. Mark never could.
Let's go game by game from his first 2 years
2009:
at Hou- good game W
vs. NE- good game W
vs. Ten good game W
at NO- terrible game, L
at Mia- good game, L
vs. Buf- terrible game, L
at Oak- didn't have to do much, W
vs. Mia- good game, L
vs. Jax- decent game, L
at NE- terrible game, L
vs. Car- good game, W
at Buf- was having decent game until he got hurt, W
vs. Atl- poor game, L
at Ind- blah game, W
vs. Cin- good game, W
Playoffs:
at Cin- great game, W
at SD- very good game, W
at Ind- ok game, L
2010:
vs. Bal- bad game, L
vs. NE- great game, W
at Mia- great game, W
at Buf- good game, W
vs. Min- good game, W
at Den- ok game, W
vs. GB, bad game, L
at Det- good game, W
at Cle- good game, W
vs. Hou- good game, W
vs. Cin- bad game, W
at NE- bad game, L
vs. Mia- bad game, L
at Pitt- excellent game, W
at Chi- good game, L
playoffs
at Ind- decent game, W
at NE- outstanding game, W
at Pitt- good game, L
In 2011 they were 8-5 when the D got blasted in Philly changing the course of our season. A week later we controlled the 1st half against the Giants w/ a 3rd and 10 from their 1 yd line and a chance to go up 10-3 or 14-3 and we allowed a game changing and season changing play for BOTH teams so while Mark didn't play well those last 3 weeks our team stunk too.
The difference btw Ben and Mark is big, not Eli and mark. Switch the QBs for our playoff runs and they end up the same w/ NYG winning 2 SBs and NYJ losing 2 title games.
other than the 4 playoff wins which double the next most of any QB in Jets history. Is that it? he gave us a chance to reach 2 SBs which our overrated Ds choked in to prevent us from going. He got us closer to a SB than at any point since SB III.
He had ONE bad year, a year w/ the worst offensive talent in the league(healthy talent) and Tony Sparano running things w/ the Tebow distraction hovering over the team.
This is why Jet fans don't deserve a winner, we finally have a guy we can win big with and they want him gone b/c he sucked in a situation no QB could succeed in.
Obviously I know Mark's career as a Jet is over(barring something incredibly crazy) but I'd take a healthy Mark on my team any day. It's not his fault since 2010 the talent eroded around him.
He went from Braylon, Holmes, Cotch and Keller in 2010 to:
-losing Braylon and getting an older WR who just spent 2 years in prison, picking up an old WR in camp and having 3 of his top 5 weapons out of football the next year.
-in 2012 he saw Chaz Schilens starting, he lost Holmes and his favorite target keller, Clyde Gates couldn't make the dolphins yet he played a prominent role for us picking him up after the season began.
Mark has proven he can win big in this league but you need talent. heck, look at Eli w/ talent Mark has never had and he's 0-5. Look at ben w/ little talent(still much more than mark had last year). Unless your name is Tom Brady you need talent to throw and handoff to in this league. When mark had it he won big, when he didn't he sucked much like Eli and ben are sucking w/ much more talent right now.
Two Jets fans arguing about Sanchez on a Dolphins messageboard.