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Is our O-Line improved?

The upside is an OL that stays healthy and is playing its best football, at a totally adequate level, in Nov-Dec.

There is big risk. Daniels may not be ready. Eichenberg may start early. Daniels still needs to adjust to the scheme anyway. Ajax may get hurt again. JS is a rookie and may need to learn his job.

When Aaron Brewer is your anchor, well, it says something.

That said, if nobody gets hurt, you should be solid enough to be totally adequate in the operation of the offense.
Agree, and I'll add that we still don't know what Paul is yet. He had his ups and downs last year as to be expected. I'm hopeful that he blossoms this year, but there are no guarantees. I pray that we never have to see Eich play another down for the Fins.
 
It should be significantly better at guard with Daniels and Savaiinaea.

Paul is a downgrade from Armstead, but could still turn out to be a plus left tackle. Armstead was just so good, when healthy.

Depth could be an issue. Who backs up Brewer, as one example. But overall I think the offensive line is better on paper.
Exactly.
 
If ALL are healthy then you have:

Ajax - great against run, average against pass (overall top15 RT)

Savaii - rookie, expected to be good against run, above average against pass (unknown, hopefully top40 OG)

Brewer - average to above average across the board (overall top10 C)

Daniels - average to above average across the board (overall top20 OG)

Patrick Paul - somewhat unknown, should hopefully be good against run, and hopefully average against the pass (unknown, hopefully top20 LT)

So IF all are healthy AND the rookie and PP both are at least solid, you have a 7th-17th ranked OL here, should be the best we’ve had in a decade.

This would be great if they fell between 7th and 17.

Obviously I would hope for 7th, but even if they fell around 17th, that is still more or less very solid, and with the type of weapons Miami might have, that is a huge upgrade from last year.
 
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We all hope the OL will be better but is not a given. I'll wait and see and hope for the best.
 
How about this year healthy vs last year healthy?
The only position better last year was LT with Armstead, but the upgrade from Jones and Eich to Savaiinaea and Daniels outweighs it imo. Should definitely have a better line, and also remember with Tuas quick passing that pressure up the middle thru the guards is the key to stopping us, so if we have more stout guys at POA that don’t get pushed back into Tuas lap I think that’s gonna be a huge help, not to mention the short yardage benefits of having 2 much better guards
 
Better for sure, but as always 1 injury away from being the same and 2 away from being worse.
 
Defense is always ahead early... the offense usually begins to catch up when the pads come on.
 
I rewatched an abbreviated version of the 2024 49ers game this morning, and was a bit shocked at how well the line performed that day. The 49ers had a nice front, and they did manage to pressure Tua some, but man.....they really held their own with Wynn taking 50% of Eich's snaps, and Lamm filling in for Jackson. None of the 3 former graded well in run blocking last year, but they found a way to make it work on that occasion.

All that to say that I'm a bit surprised that they brought back Eich over Wynn, who would likely settle for a similar minimum contact at this point and provide better Tackle flexibility in a worst case scenario.
 
I rewatched an abbreviated version of the 2024 49ers game this morning, and was a bit shocked at how well the line performed that day. The 49ers had a nice front, and they did manage to pressure Tua some, but man.....they really held their own with Wynn taking 50% of Eich's snaps, and Lamm filling in for Jackson. None of the 3 former graded well in run blocking last year, but they found a way to make it work on that occasion.

All that to say that I'm a bit surprised that they brought back Eich over Wynn, who would likely settle for a similar minimum contact at this point and provide better Tackle flexibility in a worst case scenario.
A couple of answers on that. First of all, Wynn is NEVER healthy... he's missed more games than Armstead. He's EXACTLY the type of player we don't want.

Second off... Eich was signed under the vet contract rules. He's getting 2 m, but he only counts against the cap at a vet minimum rate. He really isn't costing us anything.
 
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