Ive never felt like this during a draft before

[spiketex]

sinPHIN - please take the time to watch the Jarvis Landry video. He looks a terrific prospect. When Mike Mayock describes him as pound for pound the toughest player in college football, we have picked up a very good one. Watch how he snatches the ball. He is expected to be our new slot receiver.

 

[Sirspud]

name the last time we drafted 3 day 1 starters in the first 3 rounds

Being a starter says very little about a player's actual ability, it just means that somebody is dumb enough and/or bad enough to put them out there as a starter even if they are a bad player.

For the record, Saban's first draft got us three starters in the first four rounds in Ronnie Brown, Travis Daniels, and Channing Crowder, plus Matt Roth was a contributor.

 

[Coach_Rob]

sinPHIN - please take the time to watch the Jarvis Landry video. He looks a terrific prospect. When Mike Mayock describes him as pound for pound the toughest player in college football, we have picked up a very good one. Watch how he snatches the ball. He is expected to be our new slot receiver.

man im not mad at the pick I think he is a great addition, I question the way they handled not trading in the first. In the second I was pissed more about trading down while guys like hill and the te's were getting snatched up

 

[HoneyB]

I don't love how the draft was run. We have 1 player in the top 50. With all that trading back, we still have 1 pick for each of the first four rounds, just like we started out with.

I feel like we fell into Jarvis Landry, only because the draft is ridiculously deep in WR's. Thank god we got Landry. I hope he projects as more than just a slot receiver like Gibson.

 

[Al13]

Im a huge homer and usually can talk myself into loving our drafts, but this year I just don't get it. I know that all the picks so far have been solid picks, but to start trading down with arguably the best talent on the board and missing out on some playmakers, but not trade down in the first? wtf is going on in that draft room? james is a solid pick and im not pissed that we picked him, but we could have traded down and still got him. Then with all the playmakers that were on the board during the second and we trade down not once but twice? im pissed off and confused. again solid and safe picks.... but come on....
let the hate begin

seriously...if you were able to like our previous drafts, then this one right here should gave you the hardest erection in years, we picked up 3 players that will help this team bigtime, 2 of them battle tested SEC starters

 

[MP-Omnis]

Jarvis Landry will get reps in a 6-deep receiving group with Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Matthews, and Williams. Landry is also solid on ST. Binns and Moore can now take a hike-- they're auxiliary.

Jawuan (it's going to take me forever to not second guess the way I spell his name) James and Billy Turner are both locks to start. They both help the team tremendously.

I feel like even though I think Hickey reached, he is a guy that is long on his prospects. It doesn't matter where you draft someone if you know they're the surest way to make your pick pay off. So being mad at Hickey for reaching on James is like being mad that you bought Coca-Cola stock in 1900 for $10 when you could've had it for a buck. Regardless, you've made yourself a millionaire.

I think we finally have a day 2 on the books that won't be looked back at as a complete disaster in 5 years. That's how you build winning teams.

Cliffs:

• Give Hickey the benefit of the doubt.
• Any pick is an improvement.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

I lost interest early in the second round. There was a run on all the players I really liked -- Marqise Lee, Kyle Van Noy, Cyrus Kouandjio, along with Ra'Shede Hageman and Jordan Matthews.

Those are all first round caliber players. And that's the best segment of the draft every year, IMO, the slotting between 33 and early 40s. You can really capitalize on great value if you know what you are doing. The league annually is willing to let previously blue chip rated players drop to early second round, but not lower than that. This year Kouandjio went 44, the lowest among the group I named. Basically that demonstrates that the hype over a deep draft was overblown. A guy like Kouandjio normally would slide to 38 or 40, maybe 42. So he's a few spots lower this year. In a weak draft he might be a few places higher. We're talking 5-10% variance either way from standard, not massive like so many adjusters prefer to believe. There are always deep positions in each draft, like wide receiver this year. Otherwise it's foolish to believe the overall quality varies dramatically from year to year.

I am not pleased. Our need is great players, not certain positions. Patching is the solution of middling minds. We got one player in the top 40 and it's debatable whether he belonged there. I say no. I never viewed Juwaun James as a first round talent and I've been familiar with him for 4 years.

Then we started screwing around in the late second round and lower. That's where you get guys like Ego Ferguson. It always amazes me that the caliber of player drops off dramatically in the bottom half of the second round. You can find a gem but the burden is tremendous. In the top 40 even a mediocre general manager owns the advantage.

As I posted last year, my philosophy would be to acquire as many top 40-42 picks as possible with my early selections, and otherwise take the late second round through fourth round off. Then begin heavy again in the fifth round, preferably with multiple picks. The Dolphins seem to be doing the opposite, placing great faith in late second through fourth round picks.

Very poor instincts, IMO. If you are going to waste time in those middle rounds, at least take players with huge metrics, like Kareem Martin or Ben Gardner. Those metrics allow opportunity for a home run. I was impressed that McShay made a positive remark toward advanced metrics on tonight's telecast. Most of the traditional draft analysts scoff at that type of thing.

 

[Al13]

I lost interest early in the second round. There was a run on all the players I really liked -- Marqise Lee, Kyle Van Noy, Cyrus Kouandjio, along with Ra'Shede Hageman and Jordan Matthews.

Those are all first round caliber players. And that's the best segment of the draft every year, IMO, the slotting between 33 and early 40s. You can really capitalize on great value if you know what you are doing. The league annually is willing to let previously blue chip rated players drop to early second round, but not lower than that. This year Kouandjio went 44, the lowest among the group I named. Basically that demonstrates that the hype over a deep draft was overblown. A guy like Kouandjio normally would slide to 38 or 40, maybe 42. So he's a few spots lower this year. In a weak draft he might be a few places higher. We're talking 5-10% variance either way from standard, not massive like so many adjusters prefer to believe. There are always deep positions in each draft, like wide receiver this year. Otherwise it's foolish to believe the overall quality varies dramatically from year to year.

I am not pleased. Our need is great players, not certain positions. Patching is the solution of middling minds. We got one player in the top 40 and it's debatable whether he belonged there. I say no. I never viewed Juwaun James as a first round talent and I've been familiar with him for 4 years.

Then we started screwing around in the late second round and lower. That's where you get guys like Ego Ferguson. It always amazes me that the caliber of player drops off dramatically in the bottom half of the second round. You can find a gem but the burden is tremendous. In the top 40 even a mediocre general manager owns the advantage.

As I posted last year, my philosophy would be to acquire as many top 40-42 picks as possible with my early selections, and otherwise take the late second round through fourth round off. Then begin heavy again in the fifth round, preferably with multiple picks. The Dolphins seem to be doing the opposite, placing great faith in late second through fourth round picks.

Very poor instincts, IMO. If you are going to waste time in those middle rounds, at least take players with huge metrics, like Kareem Martin or Ben Gardner. Those metrics allow opportunity for a home run. I was impressed that McShay made a positive remark toward advanced metrics on tonight's telecast. Most of the traditional draft analysts scoff at that type of thing.

its called armchair GM´s versus guys that actually do it

 

[Fin_Frenzy_84]

I think these picks can actually help next year.

Agree. James has a lot of PT experience against SEC talent at the RT spot so hopefully he can come in and make a impact! I think Turner will be a beast at guard. I also love the Landry pick! He may be slow but he has great routes which creates separation. He attacks the ball, plays physical, quick, and has excellent hands.

 

[dolfan_]

this draft has been very workman like, nothing flashy. Right now the best pick is probably the division ii guard. But again, he could have fallen another round.
James was a reach and we should have traded down, and i would have rather taken tre mason instead of landry.
The team is following their draft board. I am concerned about our scouting department.
Farmer had more to work with, but he has made the most of his position. Hickey is playing it safe with mediocre players.
I want quality, not quantity.

running back was not a position of need, nor are they playmakers, unless your last name is peterson or mccoy.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

I lost interest early.....

So did I. But it was in your rambling.