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Jason Cole: Dolphins concerned about Tannehill

MadDog 88 said:
A common denominator I see is saying the Dolphins need to surround Tannehill with talent. Same argument was used here against Sanches. Upper echelon QBs make those around them better. Guys that need to be surround with top level talent don't fit that catagory.

Call that food for thought.
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How's Brian Hartline for 2 consecutive 1,000 yd seasons? 24 TD's spread out b/w Hartline, Wallace, Clay, Matthews, Gibson, Thomas, Thigpen and Sims. None of which are talents along the lines of say; Julio Jones and Roddy White for Ryan; Reggie Wayne for Andrew Luck and so on. Tannehill does make those around him better.

Thanks for an early dinner :picnic:
 
Hey I hear Jason Cole heard the Colts may be worried about Andrew Luck also.

pre-season stats:

Name....Comp.....Att.....Pct......Att/G....Yds.....Avg.....Yds/G.....TD.....Int.....1st.....1st%....Lng.....20+.....40+.....Sck.....Rate

Luck.....26….......41…..63.4…..13.7…..245.…..6.0..…...81.7…...2....…..1..…..14…...34.1…..23….....3.....…..0.....….1….....85.9
Tann....28..........41…..68.3…..13.7…..291.…..7.1.…....97.0…...1....…..1..…..14…...34.1…..36….....3….......0…......1….....86.5
 
MadDog 88 said:
A common denominator I see is saying the Dolphins need to surround Tannehill with talent. Same argument was used here against Sanches. Upper echelon QBs make those around them better. Guys that need to be surround with top level talent don't fit that catagory.

Call that food for thought.
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MadDog, you're about as fair as it gets around here, so humor me by responding to your food for thought with some of my own.

Please choose one of the following adjectives to describe the Miami Dolphins running game in 2013:

Awful
Bad
Marginal
Average
Solid
Good
Excellent

Now please choose one of those same adjectives to describe the Dolphins' pass protection (OL, TE, and RB blocking and blitz pickups), and one more to describe the overall passing offense.

Do you feel it's time to give up on the quarterback, or do you want to see what he can do with one more year?
 
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MadDog 88 said:
A common denominator I see is saying the Dolphins need to surround Tannehill with talent. Same argument was used here against Sanches. Upper echelon QBs make those around them better. Guys that need to be surrounded with top level talent don't fit that catagory.

Call that food for thought.
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you have plenty of talent around your QB and when we had plenty around mark he won big and now that he has it around him again he's been playing great for Philly.

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tay0365 said:
Hey I hear Jason Cole heard the Colts may be worried about Andrew Luck also.

pre-season stats:

Name....Comp.....Att.....Pct......Att/G....Yds.....Avg.....Yds/G.....TD.....Int.....1st.....1st%....Lng.....20+.....40+.....Sck.....Rate

Luck.....26….......41…..63.4…..13.7…..245.…..6.0..…...81.7…...2....…..1..…..14…...34.1…..23….....3.....…..0.....….1….....85.9
Tann....28..........41…..68.3…..13.7…..291.…..7.1.…....97.0…...1....…..1..…..14…...34.1…..36….....3….......0…......1….....86.5
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I don't buy any preseason stats but one is proven and one isn't.
 
Anyone with a quarterback playing on this level would have to be concerned. The league no longer allows the head coach and higher ups to linger through several consecutive seasons in the 8-8 range or slightly below. There may be an occasional exception, like current Dallas, but as always the exceptions are irrelevant. I always get a kick out of the desperation to summon a parallel example. For instance, Brady apparently threw a pick six recently and I guess Peyton had a poor game. I've seen those mentions lately, trying to counter Tannehill's 3 point effort against Dallas. Are New England and Denver concerned? Let's see, they have a decade plus of quarterbacking excellence as a soother. We have a guy who was a wide receiver.

There's no reason to make much of this, in either direction. But the Tannehill supporters hardly have solo claim to the high road. I've already seen countless gloating rips of Johnny Manziel from the same crew. How does that make any sense at all? We're content to adjust Tannehill anywhere we want to take him but a guy who has never thrown one meaningful pass in the NFL is condemned as a failure, and the owner's judgment questioned. Comical.

I have far greater faith in the media than the adjusters.
 
rev kev said:
Tannehill has improved everyone of those WRs and Clay (Wallace had a career year with receptions)

Hartline will be the first dolphin with three 1,000 yard seasons in a row and he is a 3rd at best on PO teams
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Were all those receptions a go pattern?
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
MadDog, you're about as fair as it gets around here, so humor me by responding to your food for thought with some of my own.

Please choose one of the following adjectives to describe the Miami Dolphins running game in 2013:

Awful
Bad
Marginal
Average
Solid
Good
Excellent

Now please choose one of those same adjectives to describe the Dolphins' pass protection (OL, TE, and RB blocking and blitz pickups), and one more to describe the overall passing offense.

Do you feel it's time to give up on the quarterback, or do you want to see what he can do with one more year?
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average for both but they abandoned run game and trusted the QB more than they should have. No way would I give up on Ryan but he was a big reason why you missed last year.
 
MadDog 88 said:
A common denominator I see is saying the Dolphins need to surround Tannehill with talent. Same argument was used here against Sanches. Upper echelon QBs make those around them better. Guys that need to be surround with top level talent don't fit that catagory.

Call that food for thought.
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A common denominator I see with the haters is that Tanne needs to be some elite QB that makes zero mistakes despite playing with no OLine last year. Let me guess, Tanne is supposed to make his OLine better? Please explain that one to me. With his legs, right? Oh the ones our **** OC wouldn't let him use last year?

Anyone that knows a damn thing about football knows that Tanne is the best prospect at an above average QB we've had since Marino. Why the hell cant we root for him instead of overreacting to ONE ****ING interception in a PRESEASON game that means next to nothing?

How jaded is this damn fan base? I'm ecstatic to have Tanne who, like I said, is the best thing we've had in a long time. The majority of you are just ready to roll the dice again in the draft. I'll be looking forward to most of you jumping back on the bandwagon the moment he has a TD. Because lets face it, it isn't even whole games anymore, the mood this site changes with the smallest of things
 
eh... Tannehill needs to show improvement we all know that. But for people to either get ultra defensive about it or call people the butthurt brigade both need to (pardon my French) grow the **** up.

I'm not going to get all upset over anything. People are going to see what they want to see. Those who want to be excited about 2 games will be excited by them those who want to use a few struggles against Dallas as cause for concern will.

Otherwise it's really not worth getting involved with this damn argument. It all ends up the same
 
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