Jason Cole: Dolphins concerned about Tannehill

[EvilDylan]

Poor guy can't understand the difference between deep pass rate, and deep pass accuracy.

hilarious.

 

[nyjunc]

 

[EvilDylan]

Is that a joke? He placed BELOW average.

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Says the man arguing with multiple people in other threads right now. You so tough Dylan! You big forum baddy you!

Just pointing out what a hypocrite you are.

Im arguing with multiple people in other threads? Child please, don't lie to try and make a point.

 

[Nawledge]

Is that a joke? He placed BELOW average.

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Says the man arguing with multiple people in other threads right now. You so tough Dylan! You big forum baddy you!

Go take another look, he was ahead of all 3 in deep pass accuracy. You provided the chart you should try looking at it.

 

[nyjunc]

So you agree, it's a team sport...a teams success doesn't rest solely on one player. For as good as Peyton is he brother has more rings.

when have I said it wasn't a team sport? but QB is the most important position and you aren't winning w/o quality QB play. Miami had enough to win if Ryan stepped up.

peyton has had SB caliber talent around him 90% of his career, his failures in big spots have cost him and his team numerous SB chances and the one he won he wasn't very good outside of one half against NE.

 

[SSnowman]

Is that a joke? He placed BELOW average.

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Below average in attempts. Average in accuracy (above some Superbowl winning QBs).

Also, take a look at 2012 when he was in the top 10 for deep ball accuracy.

 

[enigmatics]

Go take another look, he was ahead of all 3 in deep pass accuracy. You provided the chart you should try looking at it.

Ya, my mistake. I was looking at the "rate" one. Didn't scroll down.:brewskis:

 

[tcdrover]

They should be doing their due diligence as should team officials on any team for any player.

Tannehill has played well at times but there is no denying that he has not played as well as other QB's in his class.

Take the games that the Dolphins WON last year. They were most of them MUCH closer than they needed to be.

When we had the ball in the 4th quarter, he was many times not able to convert 3rd downs to kill the clock on Offense.

Maybe the OC was to blame or the Line or the WRs. Whatever the reason, he did not rise to overcome the adversity like a Super Bowl winning QB would or a Hall of Fame QB would.

Hopefully this year he takes a step forward now that he has played QB for another full year.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

don't care about other teams replacing certain players, your OL was more than good enough to make the playoffs, your QB failed.

Spouting nonsense with no intention of standing behind your opinions. You talk and talk and pretend to know what you are talking about but when asked to back it up, you decline. What a surprise. I sure wish you had the guts to back up your talk. Would have saved the whole message board from a year of drivel. Ah, I can dream....

 

[Nawledge]

when have I said it wasn't a team sport? but QB is the most important position and you aren't winning w/o quality QB play. Miami had enough to win if Ryan stepped up.

peyton has had SB caliber talent around him 90% of his career, his failures in big spots have cost him and his team numerous SB chances and the one he won he wasn't very good outside of one half against NE.

I never said u said it wasn't a team sport, I was asking if you agree with me that it is. I know how important a qb is but there's also 22 other guys, including the kicker, that matter as well.

 

[nyjunc]

I never said u said it wasn't a team sport, I was asking if you agree with me that it is. I know how important a qb is but there's also 22 other guys, including the kicker, that matter as well.

I never blamed it all on Ryan, I know he had issues around him but he had chances to make plays and win games and failed. the D carried him and the team to playoff contention.

 

[FinfanInBuffalo]

Forget Tannehill and Moore for a second. The deep ball is important no matter how often you are using it. As a matter of fact the thread of a deep ball can change an entire offense. If you can connect on only two deep balls regularly it makes a defense respect the deep ball and it prevents a DL from stacking the line of scrimmage.

I do believe that we had that argument during the Fiedler years. Because he was unable to connect the deep ball the defenses stacked the line of scrimmage and essentially took away the running game and even short and intermediate passing. In return as an offense you have to commit more players to blocking.

With a functional vertical pass thread defenses a lot of times back off from the line of scrimmage and rush only 3 guys.

Thinking that the deep ball is underrated is a flawed thinking.

The flaw in your logic is that the opposing defenses weren't stacking the line of scrimmage.

 

[Nawledge]

Ya, my mistake. I was looking at the "rate" one. Didn't scroll down.:brewskis:

You can't read a chart that u post to prove YOUR point and u expect people to take you seriously? C'mon bro

 

[enigmatics]

Below average in attempts. Average in accuracy (above some Superbowl winning QBs).

Also, take a look at 2012 when he was in the top 10 for deep ball accuracy.

What is crazy is how lightening in a bottle Flacco's SB winning season was in lieu of those numbers.

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You can't read a chart that u post to prove YOUR point and u expect people to take you seriously? C'mon bro

It was an accident. It happens believe it or not.

 

[nyjunc]

Spouting nonsense with no intention of standing behind your opinions. You talk and talk and pretend to know what you are talking about but when asked to back it up, you decline. What a surprise. I sure wish you had the guts to back up your talk. Would have saved the whole message board from a year of drivel. Ah, I can dream....

posting on a MB doesn't take guys though putting someone on ignore shows a lack of guts. maybe if you didn't run and hide we could have had meaningful discussions? I have showed numerous examples of your OL being much better the 2nd half and about Ryan being responsible for many of the sacks. The bottom line is he faced 2 mediocre teams needing 1 win to get to postseason and put up 7 pts COMBINED. Sorry, he doesn't get the OL excuse. I have said it many times if the OL was better maybe they make it but if the QB was better they definitely make it. They were in playoff position in spite of Ryan not b/c of him.