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Jeff Ireland is smarter than 98% of you

dphins51 said:
Let's go to the past for proof
Red Did not work out
Red Brick Jury out
Green a Good Choice to this point
2011 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 15 Mike Pouncey C Florida
2 62 Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
4 111 Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
6 174 Charles Clay RB Tulsa
7 231 Frank Kearse DT Alabama A&M
7 235 Jimmy Wilson DB Montana
2010 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 28 Jared Odrick DE Penn State
2 40 Koa Misi OLB Utah
3 73 John Jerry G Mississippi
4 119 A.J. Edds LB Iowa
5 145 Nolan Carroll CB Maryland
5 163 Reshad Jones FS Georgia
7 212 Chris McCoy LB Middle Tennessee State
7 252 Austin Spitler LB Ohio State
2009 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 25 Vontae Davis DB Illinois
2 44 Pat White QB West Virginia
2 61 Sean Smith DB Utah
3 87 Patrick Turner WR USC
4 108 Brian Hartline WR Ohio State
5 161 John Nalbone TE Monmouth (N.J.)
5 165 Chris Clemons DB Clemson
6 181 Andrew Gardner T Georgia Tech
7 214 J.D. Folsom LB Weber State
2008 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 1 Jake Long T Michigan
2 32 Phillip Merling DE Clemson
2 57 Chad Henne QB Michigan
3 66 Kendall Langford DE Hampton
4 110 Shawn Murphy G Utah State
6 176 Jalen Parmele RB Toledo
6 195 Donald Thomas G Connecticut
6 204 Lex Hilliard RB Montana
7 245 Lionel Dotson DE Arizona
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Like your approach, but assume you're missing some points. With these results, Jeff Ireland has a poor percentage of good selection.

Red - Player did not work out
Blue - Jury out
Green - Player is effective

2011 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 15 Mike Pouncey C Florida <--- He played excellent football for a rookie center!!
2 62 Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
4 111 Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
6 174 Charles Clay RB Tulsa
7 231 Frank Kearse DT Alabama A&M
7 235 Jimmy Wilson DB Montana

2010 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 28 Jared Odrick DE Penn State
2 40 Koa Misi OLB Utah
3 73 John Jerry G Mississippi
4 119 A.J. Edds LB Iowa
5 145 Nolan Carroll CB Maryland
5 163 Reshad Jones FS Georgia
7 212 Chris McCoy LB Middle Tennessee State
7 252 Austin Spitler LB Ohio State

2009 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 25 Vontae Davis DB Illinois
2 44 Pat White QB West Virginia
2 61 Sean Smith DB Utah <--- Not a superstar but a fine player from time to time!!
3 87 Patrick Turner WR USC
4 108 Brian Hartline WR Ohio State
5 161 John Nalbone TE Monmouth (N.J.)
5 165 Chris Clemons DB Clemson
6 181 Andrew Gardner T Georgia Tech
7 214 J.D. Folsom LB Weber State

2008 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 1 Jake Long T Michigan
2 32 Phillip Merling DE Clemson <--- Philip needed so much time to adjust!!
2 57 Chad Henne QB Michigan
3 66 Kendall Langford DE Hampton
4 110 Shawn Murphy G Utah State
6 176 Jalen Parmele RB Toledo
6 195 Donald Thomas G Connecticut
6 204 Lex Hilliard RB Montana
7 245 Lionel Dotson DE Arizona
 
How's Phillip Merling in green?
dphins51 said:
Let's go to the past for proof
Red Did not work out
Red Brick Jury out
Green a Good Choice to this point
2011 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 15 Mike Pouncey C Florida
2 62 Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
4 111 Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
6 174 Charles Clay RB Tulsa
7 231 Frank Kearse DT Alabama A&M
7 235 Jimmy Wilson DB Montana
2010 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 28 Jared Odrick DE Penn State
2 40 Koa Misi OLB Utah
3 73 John Jerry G Mississippi
4 119 A.J. Edds LB Iowa
5 145 Nolan Carroll CB Maryland
5 163 Reshad Jones FS Georgia
7 212 Chris McCoy LB Middle Tennessee State
7 252 Austin Spitler LB Ohio State
2009 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 25 Vontae Davis DB Illinois
2 44 Pat White QB West Virginia
2 61 Sean Smith DB Utah
3 87 Patrick Turner WR USC
4 108 Brian Hartline WR Ohio State
5 161 John Nalbone TE Monmouth (N.J.)
5 165 Chris Clemons DB Clemson
6 181 Andrew Gardner T Georgia Tech
7 214 J.D. Folsom LB Weber State
2008 - Miami Dolphins
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 1 Jake Long T Michigan
2 32 Phillip Merling DE Clemson
2 57 Chad Henne QB Michigan
3 66 Kendall Langford DE Hampton
4 110 Shawn Murphy G Utah State
6 176 Jalen Parmele RB Toledo
6 195 Donald Thomas G Connecticut
6 204 Lex Hilliard RB Montana
7 245 Lionel Dotson DE Arizona
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Doubtful...science degree from an Ivy League school > "professional" football guy....sorry...

Ireland's an idiot.
 
Okay, go back and do that same list from any other NFL team and see how it stacks up. Drafting in the NFL is an inexact science and he's hit well where it counts most, the top of the draft
 
Ireland is a genius because he somehow manage to keep his job after 3 losing seasons.
It is mind boggling to me how, after he took over our front office, he actually made the Dolphins worse and there are still people making excuses for him.
 
RayStinkle said:
Just accept it. He may rub players and agents the wrong way but he is no dummy. He knows his job and he is not going to overpay for garbage just to make alot of arm chair dolphin gm's happy. I trust in his ability to deliver the RIGHT QB at the RIGHT price. The season doesn't start for another 6 months.
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True Ireland is so awesome at his job we have had three straight losing seasons
 
RayStinkle said:
Just accept it. He may rub players and agents the wrong way but he is no dummy. He knows his job and he is not going to overpay for garbage just to make alot of arm chair dolphin gm's happy. I trust in his ability to deliver the RIGHT QB at the RIGHT price. The season doesn't start for another 6 months.
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It is obvious that you have not been following the dolphins for long.
 
Matt Millen>Jeff Ireland.

Worst GM in football history
 
I am trying to figure out which great QB we could have had and did not get when Ireland was calling the shots, not Bill Parcells.

Kevin Kolb?
Kyle Orton?
Tim Tebow?
 
RayStinkle said:
I am trying to figure out which great QB we could have had and did not get when Ireland was calling the shots, not Bill Parcells.

Kevin Kolb?
Kyle Orton?
Tim Tebow?
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I think its silly to say that Ireland had no say in signing a qb , he came here so he would have some personnel power , i mean if he wanted to be a puppet why not stay in Dallas.
And from all accounts he wanted to trade for Orton but Ross vetoed
 
dlockz said:
I think its silly to say that Ireland had no say in signing a qb , he came here so he would have some personnel power , i mean if he wanted to be a puppet why not stay in Dallas.
And from all accounts he wanted to trade for Orton but Ross vetoed
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It has been documented that Parcells was responsible for Henne and Pat White. I am not sure about the Orton trade but I was looking for suggestions on which QB is the last 2 years he should have drafted or signed and didn't?
 
RayStinkle said:
It has been documented that Parcells was responsible for Henne and Pat White. I am not sure about the Orton trade but I was looking for suggestions on which QB is the last 2 years he should have drafted or signed and didn't?
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there is no documentation that Ireland had no say in these picks.
 
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