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Jeff Ireland will be fired

What new bright, up and coming G.M. is going to hitch their chance on Tannehill and Philbin?

When you fire Ireland, you cannot tie a new G.M.'s hands with anyone on the team. Fresh start. Let the G.M. choose the coach.

If Ross does not guarantee that, we're better off keeping everyone around next year. Inevitably tanking and cleaning house proper. We all know these bums lack talent and are chockers.
 
I mentioned this in another thread but that Browns situation is downright strange, the way their cap situation was handled I think Chud was a stop gap all along and there must be a big name they are waiting on. They completely ****ed Chud by not spending any money whatsoever and forcing Weeden on him then they fire him after only one year when the team sucks? No ****ing **** the team was going to suck in that situation.

I work with a Browns fan in Erie Pa. once a month. I cant imagine he will go to another game for quite a while. I dont know though, they are so numb to losing that I think they just go for the entertainment and all the barking.
 
And also my buddy works with a Browns fan and he says we are in a much better situation than alot of finfans think.

There's still alot of holes though. We have to score in this draft with OL and we may have to sign a whole lot of one year deals again to get by and leave the doors open for those guys to go elsewhere should this ship sail.
 
What new bright, up and coming G.M. is going to hitch their chance on Tannehill and Philbin?

When you fire Ireland, you cannot tie a new G.M.'s hands with anyone on the team. Fresh start. Let the G.M. choose the coach.

If Ross does not guarantee that, we're better off keeping everyone around next year. Inevitably tanking and cleaning house proper. We all know these bums lack talent and are chockers.
You are 100% correct. If we don't get rid of everybody, we might as well stick with everyone for next year. At least by then we will know for sure if we have a QB or not. Personally I've seen enough of Ireland/ Philbin.
 
Jeff Ireland should be and most likely will be retained along with Joe Philbin.

Here is why:

Philbin and Ireland have had 2 years together

Lets look at that. The first year, Philbin got what he got in terms of players that were here and implementing new schemes and systems. After last year's dismal performance of 7-9 Philbin and Ireland made adjustments that included, Jettisoning Long, Dansby, Burnette, Vonte and Bush. Attempts were made to replace Dansby and Burnette. Not a fair assessment for 2 guys who just got here. Give them time to adjust like any other player and lets reevaluate them. It is obvious that Dansby and Burnette made our D line and 2ndary better then the current set of linebackers. Water under the bridge at this point but not the end of the world. They will be better next year.

Offensive line. Philbin's strong point. In fact he does nothing better and he has been a career offensive line coach. Obviously Philbin felt Martin was going to step it up and if you believe some of what we have heard Incognito was tasked with making that happen. Philbin must have also had input into Long leaving. In fact I know he did because Incognito's Dad posted on another board multiple posts saying Philbin was all involved. In fact, Mommabilly, as he was known has quite a bit of dislike for both Ireland and Philbin and felt they were stringing his son along for less Money. It is obvious Long felt unwanted and unappreciated so he signed with the Rams. Long had direct conversations with Philbin. For whatever reason they were trying to get Long on the cheap and felt confident enough that if Long walked they could replace him with what we had.

No one could have seen the Incognito blow up coming. It is alleged that Martin has had a gun to his head 3 different times and the phins new about it. Again alleged. Not sure what could have been done in the middle of the season like that except to try and patch the holes. Not sure why Martin was even being considered except that, maybe the coaches just thought he needed to toughen up. Remember he was supposed to be good.

We did not make the playoffs because when the line imploded, so did everything else.

Had the line made it thru the season we would be talking playoffs. Where I have the problem is I question the way we lost. Losing I can handle, but not punching both the Bills and Jets in the mouth on the way to losing is unacceptable. If Sparano was here I can assure you we would have punched and at least knocked out a tooth.........
 
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Jeff Ireland should be and most likely will be retained along with Joe Philbin.

Here is why:

Philbin and Ireland have had 2 years together

Lets look at that. The first year, Philbin got what he got in terms of players that were here and implementing new schemes and systems. After last year's dismal performance of 7-9 Philbin and Ireland made adjustments that included, Jettisoning Long, Dansby, Burnette, Vonte and Bush. Attempts were made to replace Dansby and Burnette. Not a fair assessment for 2 guys who just got here. Give them time to adjust like any other player and lets reevaluate them. It is obvious that Dansby and Burnette made our D line and 2ndary better then the current set of linebackers. Water under the bridge at this point but not the end of the world. They will be better next year.

Offensive line. Philbin's strong point. In fact he does nothing better and he has been a career offensive line coach. Obviously Philbin felt Martin was going to step it up and if you believe some of what we have heard Incognito was tasked with making that happen. Philbin must have also had input into Long leaving. In fact I know he did because Incognito's Dad posted on another board multiple posts saying Philbin was all involved. In fact, Mommabilly, as he was known has quite a bit of dislike for both Ireland and Philbin and felt they were stringing his son along for less Money. It is obvious Long felt unwanted and unappreciated so he signed with the Rams. Long had direct conversations with Philbin. For whatever reason they were trying to get Long on the cheap and felt confident enough that if Long walked they could replace him with what we had.

No one could have seen the Incognito blow up coming. It is alleged that Martin has had a gun to his head 3 different times and the phins new about it. Again alleged. Not sure what could have been done in the middle of the season like that except to try and patch the holes. Not sure why Martin was even being considered except that, maybe the coaches just thought he needed to toughen up. Remember he was supposed to be good.

We did not make the playoffs because when the line imploded, so did everything else.

Had the line made it thru the season we would be talking playoffs. Where I have the problem is I question the way we lost. Losing I can handle, but not punching both the Bills and Jets in the mouth on the way to losing is unacceptable. If Sparano was here I can assure you we would have punched and at least knocked out a tooth.........

whoa! how do you know this about martin and a gun to his head? You have posted 15 times.

But I like what you say. I undestand the hatred right now because of long standing mediocrity but outsider professionals all agree that Philbin gets ton of cred for keeping this team together under these circumstances and they actually couldnt believe we had a shot. Who was thinking we would beat Pittsburgh and New England? Absolutely no one.
 
whoa! how do you know this about martin and a gun to his head? You have posted 15 times.

But I like what you say. I undestand the hatred right now because of long standing mediocrity but outsider professionals all agree that Philbin gets ton of cred for keeping this team together under these circumstances and they actually couldnt believe we had a shot. Who was thinking we would beat Pittsburgh and New England? Absolutely no one.

Incognito's dad who was posting here was also posting on thephins.com. He said exactly that in several posts. He even said "it would come out in the wash". The man hates Ireland and Philbin for the way they treated his son. I don't blame him for feeling that way. He posted over 500 times.
 
I work with a Browns fan in Erie Pa. once a month. I cant imagine he will go to another game for quite a while. I dont know though, they are so numb to losing that I think they just go for the entertainment and all the barking.

He should be excited. They are obviously setting themselves up for something huge, Chud was probably in on it too or at least he knew he only had a year to kill it. Two first round picks, a ****load of money to spend, two of the best receiving weapons in the game and they'll probably hire a big name coach and draft a QB in the first.
 
Hayden Fox needs a chill pill. On the real.

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Well, if something is going to happen, it should be soon. Ross would be competing with other teams for the best replacement candidates, so time isn't on his side.

What part of South Carolina are you in?

Moved up to the good ole upstate area about 3 years ago. Lived in Charleston beforehand for 18 years.

What about you bro?
 
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