the trade for surtain was with carolina. i hear you on the division rival thing (re. the trade w/NE), but injuries happen. call dave an idiot, but don't call him an idiot because his pick got hurt. sure, boldin would've been okay, but who knows if he would've developed as quickly under ford? with boldin here, we may not have gotten boston. who knows how any of it works out, but the eddie moore pick was beaten to death on this board about a year ago. and then again after he got hurt. and then again when boldin blew up... i know, i know, i don't have to reply, but eddie moore hasn't stepped onto a field and we still don't know what j.r. tolver can do. maybe he'll blossom with the new receivers coach here. maybe boston will have a turnaround like another prominent buckeye screw-up, cris carter. seems like some of us are hoping moore does nothing so we can bash wanny even more. i'd rather enjoy the season than worry about being right.