John Clayton on Garrard at 8:10

[Skunkape Serape]

Garrard ****ing blows.

I want no part of him on the team. It would really serve no purpose. I mean, sure he is probably better than Henne, even past his prime, but he still blows.

Chad Pennington was virtually the same age, and much further removed from quality play when we signed him than David Garrard is right now.

Not to mention that Garrard hasn't had a wide receiver that would do anything other than compete for #3 on our roster(and even then, probably lose) since Jimmy Smith retired. And even then, that was back when the Jaguars still insisted on giving Byron Leftwich more snaps than Garrard.

 

[WVDolphan]

Chad Pennington was virtually the same age, and much further removed from quality play when we signed him than David Garrard is right now.

Not to mention that Garrard hasn't had a wide receiver that would do anything other than compete for #3 on our roster(and even then, probably lose) since Jimmy Smith retired. And even then, that was back when the Jaguars still insisted on giving Byron Leftwich more snaps than Garrard.

Get real. Garrard has never been close to the QB that Pennington was.

 

[Skunkape Serape]

Get real. Garrard has never been close to the QB that Pennington was.

Based on... ?

 

[Kdawg954]

Get real. Garrard has never been close to the QB that Pennington was.

Garrard has more than proven his leadership capabilities in the NFL. The Jags have never given him a decent WR option to throw to and they never fully built that defense up. Yet Jville never really has gotten embarrassed record wise in any season. Hell in 2007 he was putting on a show in the playoffs. With his defense giving up points at will, he went up against the Steelers and beat them in Pittsburgh in one of the more memorable playoff games in recent memory when Garrard had that amazing scramble. The game was in Pittsburgh. Then the next week, he did well against New England . . . but you can't let Tom Brady go 26 for 28 and dominate your defense like he did. I remember the game well . . . Brady could not be stopped. Everytime Jville got it close, New England would score. Garrard and his talented group of Mike Sims Walker, Dennis Northcutt and Reggie Williams

Garrard isn't a bad QB, and his numbers back that up as well. Career 86 QB rating with 89 TDs and 54 picks . . . I mean damn we haven't really seen those type of numbers in recent years. And he is a dual threat QB. He definitely isn't "garbage" but I have my doubts if he is the right guy for Miami.

 

[hoops]

garrards garbage...he hasn't hit the broadside of a barn in camp...if you think you can win in the postseason with that guy your nuts

 

[hoops]

chad pennington was and still is SEVERELY OVERRATED around here also...you would think the guy was our qb for like a decade the kind of love he gets around here....he was the right guy to take us from an afterthought to middle of the pack in no way was he the right guy to get us over the hump...one season against a crap schedule and people around here would put him in the hall of fame...hilarious...the next 2 years he could't even give us a quarter of actual regular season game play...combined

the most competent of a post marino wrotten bunch...

 

[earthwake]

chad pennington was and still is SEVERELY OVERRATED around here also...you would think the guy was our qb for like a decade the kind of love he gets around here....he was the right guy to take us from an afterthought to middle of the pack in no way was he the right guy to get us over the hump...one season against a crap schedule and people around here would put him in the hall of fame...hilarious...the next 2 years he could't even give us a quarter of actual regular season game play...combined

the most competent of a post marino wrotten bunch...

yeah that Baltimore game sealed it for me. He was complete TRASH out there. ****ing rainbow passes.

 

[Kdawg954]

I don't believe Garrard is the guy to take us over the hump either, but if we were considering Kyle Orton we can damn sure can consider David Garrard . . . especially with how shaky this oline could be this season. Either way I have been on the Henne or bust wagon since we left New England in week 17 last year . . . and that hasn't changed.

 

[Kdawg954]

yeah that Baltimore game sealed it for me. He was complete TRASH out there. ****ing rainbow passes.

With Chad it was the right mix of a cupcake schedule, Brady going down, damn near perfect execution on offense, a defense that could catch INT's, a healthy OLine and the wildcat that let us sneak into the playoffs in 2008. I am forever grateful, because Chad showed plenty of guts that season . . . but he never was a guy that was gonna give us more than that.

 

[Built2Win]

Garrard has more than proven his leadership capabilities in the NFL. The Jags have never given him a decent WR option to throw to and they never fully built that defense up. Yet Jville never really has gotten embarrassed record wise in any season. Hell in 2007 he was putting on a show in the playoffs. With his defense giving up points at will, he went up against the Steelers and beat them in Pittsburgh in one of the more memorable playoff games in recent memory when Garrard had that amazing scramble. The game was in Pittsburgh. Then the next week, he did well against New England . . . but you can't let Tom Brady go 26 for 28 and dominate your defense like he did. I remember the game well . . . Brady could not be stopped. Everytime Jville got it close, New England would score. Garrard and his talented group of Mike Sims Walker, Dennis Northcutt and Reggie Williams

Garrard isn't a bad QB, and his numbers back that up as well. Career 86 QB rating with 89 TDs and 54 picks . . . I mean damn we haven't really seen those type of numbers in recent years. And he is a dual threat QB. He definitely isn't "garbage" but I have my doubts if he is the right guy for Miami.

thanks for the insightful post well thought out..
im not sure if picking him up would be the right move but it wouldn't be bad
Somebody's trash is anothers treasure

 

[hoops]

I don't believe Garrard is the guy to take us over the hump either, but if we were considering Kyle Orton we can damn sure can consider David Garrard . . . especially with how shaky this oline could be this season. Either way I have been on the Henne or bust wagon since we left New England in week 17 last year . . . and that hasn't changed.

at this point you ride or die with henne and matt moore which is what it appears sparano is ready to do...at least with henne there's still potential for upside...any veteran qb thats proven in their career they're not good enough to win with in the post season and a finished prduct i coin garbage and a waste of time...yeah garrard can still play a little but he's no different than orton and whatever else we could bring in...not good enough...keep your future assets in your pocket and ride or die with what you have...at least for this season

 

[p-double]

I would take him. Who is the Dolphins backup again? Moore is not the answer

 

[earthwake]

With Chad it was the right mix of a cupcake schedule, Brady going down, damn near perfect execution on offense, a defense that could catch INT's, a healthy OLine and the wildcat that let us sneak into the playoffs in 2008. I am forever grateful, because Chad showed plenty of guts that season . . . but he never was a guy that was gonna give us more than that.

He was a sharper version of Jay out there.

 

[Dolphindrew]

I think the Fins are best off not clouding the issues surrounding the QB position. If Henne improves this year (substantially), you move forward with him as your franchise QB. If he doesn't improve, you honestly hope for a bad enough season that you can draft a good QB or perhaps pick up a legit Free Agent QB. Bringing in guys who won't lead this franchise for the next 5-10 years isn't really attractive to me as a fan. The QB situation will not be resolved until we find a star, period. Garrard isn't even in that category. Is Henne? Probably not, but I'd say 1 more year of chances and then you move on and commit to finding "the guy".

 

[Kdawg954]

He was a sharper version of Jay out there.

He was definitely a more accurate version of Jay Fiedler and was mobile when he needed to be, however even Pennington couldn't get over 2 humps when it mattered most. That's Dan Henning and a extremely weakened arm. I think a healthy Chad Pennington with Henne's arm strength and a spread out system like Daboll's could be lethal.