Justin Jefferson vs. Jamar Chase

[1972forever]

Chase opted out for 2020.
I do not know what that means. Lives with an at risk person? Letting his team down to work on individual skills to impress the combine?

I really don’t blame any player who knows they will be a first round draft pick for sitting out this season. Avoiding injury and not having to deal with COVID 19 while It is spreading at a fast rate once again makes perfect sense to me. Besides Chase, three other players who are projected to be possible top 10 picks opted out of the season.

Personally I believe having to wait three years to enter the draft is ridiculous for those players who are talented enough to play at a younger age. If they get seriously injured in college, they basically give up the opportunity to earn millions at the NFL level. Colleges only care about how much money they can make off the players and nothing else.

 

[next-year]

I mean LSU took a very laissez-faire attitude towards Covid, if i remember correctly coach O very nonchaulatnly mentioned at the beginning of the season that most of his players already had it. Personally, if I'm a WR that's potentially going to be drafted in the top 10 based on my 2019 stats, my college QB level of play is going to plummet, and I'm at an extremely high risk of getting a virus that MIGHT cause some very shitty health side effects, it's an easy decision for me.

 

[Mindtornado]

LSU football made $56 million last year after expenses (including all that free schooling).

Yes athletes receive something for playing, but it isn’t nearly enough.

 

[AdamD13]

I vote we draft Chase and find out.

 

[Finsup4ever]

Jefferson was great in college, and is off to a very good start in the NFL. However, Chase was better in college, and has all the skills to be better in the NFL. I never want to take a WR in the top 10, but this kid is different. Chase is the best in this years class, better than any wr last year, and I can't think off the top of my head the last wr I woukd take too 10, I would be thrilled to get him. Chase won the Biletnikoff award last year, and was the most dominant player in the national championship game.

Chase - top 10
Smith - 1st rd, not top 10
Waddle - late 1st, or 2nd rd
Bateman - late 1st, or 2nd rd

 

[Andyman]

LSU football made $56 million last year after expenses (including all that free schooling).

Yes athletes receive something for playing, but it isn’t nearly enough.

Do you really count free schooling as an "expense" to the school? They're not paying themselves to recruit him and it's not really revenue foregone because those scholarships are always going to be given out. If he didn't take it, they would just give it someone else. I cannot believe people pay that much money to go to school in the US. Wow.

 

[Andyman]

Jefferson was great in college, and is off to a very good start in the NFL. However, Chase was better in college, and has all the skills to be better in the NFL. I never want to take a WR in the top 10, but this kid is different. Chase is the best in this years class, better than any wr last year, and I can't think off the top of my head the last wr I woukd take too 10, I would be thrilled to get him. Chase won the Biletnikoff award last year, and was the most dominant player in the national championship game.

Chase - top 10
Smith - 1st rd, not top 10
Waddle - late 1st, or 2nd rd
Bateman - late 1st, or 2nd rd

I tend to agree on all accounts, including your rankings, although I would gamble that Waddle is there in Round 2 and not use another first rounder.

So much could open up for Miami to be aggressive at WR in the draft if that Texans pick is top 5 and Miami favours a trade down. The extra picks they get could potentially give Miami an edge to draft Waddle higher than other teams would be comfortable with.

 

[boomer10]

Hey moderators, this thread should be moved to Draft forums to be fair here..

 

[Digital]

Usually everyone knows who is the "better" receiver ... but every once in a while it turns out differently. For instance, at Clemson they had a very good WR in Deandre Hopkins ("Hop" or "Nuke") and a "great" WR in Sammy Watkins. Every pundit and evaluator drooled over Watkins. When Watkins entered the league he definitely showed flashes of greatness ... but they were rare and inconsistent, no matter where he played. He never became a great player. But Hopkins was instantly very good and quickly became great. He came into the league before Watkins and even then everyone was saying 'just wait until you see Watkins!'

So, it's possible that Jefferson turns out to be better WR from LSU just as Hopkins turned out to be the better WR from Clemson. buuuuuuuuuut my money is on Jamar Chase. Chase isn't great because of elite speed. He's a big WR but not huge like Mike Evans. He has some quickness and speed, but physically he's simply not a freak. He's a good all around WR but definitely not an Underwear Olympics All-Star. But watching the football player Jamar Chase play you get blown away. I hate to make comparisons, becuase nobody can live up to this standard, but I do remember saying the same exact things about a kid coming out of MIssissippi Valley State back in the day. Not great timed speed, big but not huge, good but not great in the track and field events, but hell of a football player. Kid's name was .... ummmm .... Jerry Rice ... or something. He turned out all right.

 

[Jssanto]

I tend to agree on all accounts, including your rankings, although I would gamble that Waddle is there in Round 2 and not use another first rounder.

So much could open up for Miami to be aggressive at WR in the draft if that Texans pick is top 5 and Miami favours a trade down. The extra picks they get could potentially give Miami an edge to draft Waddle higher than other teams would be comfortable with.

Texans a very high pic and trade down is my hope also

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

I really don’t blame any player who knows they will be a first round draft pick for sitting out this season. Avoiding injury and not having to deal with COVID 19 while It is spreading at a fast rate once again makes perfect sense to me. Besides Chase, three other players who are projected to be possible top 10 picks opted out of the season.

Personally I believe having to wait three years to enter the draft is ridiculous for those players who are talented enough to play at a younger age. If they get seriously injured in college, they basically give up the opportunity to earn millions at the NFL level. Colleges only care about how much money they can make off the players and nothing else.

Don't lay the blame on the Universities, they didn't make the rules excluding younger players from entering the draft. The NFL did.

The Universities are there to provide educational opportunities in addition to playing sports for those that want it - and otherwise wouldn't even have the opportunity to get a college education.

Believe me, a lot of people are ready to see the college football landscape make a turn back towards more true "amateurism". But that doesn't fix the issue of players who are only interested in the NFL and not interested in getting an education. College football can't fix that. Only the professional leagues can.

 

[DPhinz_DPhinz]

Don't lay the blame on the Universities, they didn't make the rules excluding younger players from entering the draft. The NFL did.

At the very least, could both be complicit in this ruling? The NFL gets a free farm system...the NCAA gets a windfall of television money?

There are rarely virgins left when dealing with a billion dollar industry.

 

[Pachyderm_Wave]

At the very least, could both be complicit in this ruling? The NFL gets a free farm system...the NCAA gets a windfall of television money?

There are rarely virgins left when dealing with a billion dollar industry.

The NCAA nor it's Universities has anything to do with who can and can't enter the NFL draft. Without that fundamental understanding, there's no conversation that can be had.