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Kiper's End of Season Evaluation of the Dolphins 2011 Rookie Class

you gotta figure though with these league wide grades from kiper he's not watching these individuals teams kids every week like we are eagle eyeing miamis...he's trying to grade 32 teams draft picks after the season...thats tough stuff...to get 32 teams draft grades right and back it up with real analysis
 
hooshoops said:
you gotta figure though with these league wide grades from kiper he's not watching these individuals teams kids every week like we are eagle eyeing miamis...he's trying to grade 32 teams draft picks after the season...thats tough stuff...to get 32 teams draft grades right and back it up with real analysis
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I thought I had read somewhere last year Hoops that unlike Todd McShay who's actually down on the field, watching the workouts for himself, Mel rarely does that instead, mostly relying on the feedback of informed and knowledgable others. If true, sounds kind of lazy to me like he's operating on auto pilot and trading on the capital he's built up over the years.. :idk:
 
Miamifinz said:
Studs: Charles Clay, Mike Pouncey, Jimmy Wilson
?: Daniel Thomas
Dud: Clyde Gates

Not awful.
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Pretty good imo. I'd give Gates a chance though, he was raw. But its sad to see other speedsters who were much more effective that we could have drafted instead
 
The thing about kiper and espn that always makes me laugh is how they portray the blow up with the colts gm. During their promo they show kiper calling the colts organization a joke for drafting trev Alberts over difler and then the colts gms response. However they always leave the part out that happened a few picks earlier when kiper was just as critical on the colts for picking hall of famer marshall Faulk over Heath shuler.
 
OK OK you guys have made me see the light and given the fact that Kiper is man enough to change his grades using hindsight I will man up.

Mel Kiper has the IQ of a SWEET Potato (since I hold them in higher regard than regular potatoes).
 
I agree it was a solid draft, albeit unsexy...

I believe a "B" is a fair grade...

Now, we need to get an "A" for 2012 draft.... Ha.
 
Vaark said:
I thought I had read somewhere last year Hoops that unlike Todd McShay who's actually down on the field, watching the workouts for himself, Mel rarely does that instead, mostly relying on the feedback of informed and knowledgable others. If true, sounds kind of lazy to me like he's operating on auto pilot and trading on the capital he's built up over the years.. :idk:
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that wouldn't surprise me about guys once they're in the league...i think he concentrates mostly on the kids predraft...mcshay...i don't know how that guy got that job...i think he's terrible
 
hooshoops said:
that wouldn't surprise me about guys once they're in the league...i think he concentrates mostly on the kids predraft...mcshay...i don't know how that guy got that job...i think he's terrible
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McShay's first year with ESPN he was awful (biggest issue I saw was he said Leon Hall was not a good cover CB), but I think he's gotten better and feel he's right more than he is wrong now.

Kiper does get very indignant if you don't draft somebody he likes (and in recent years the guys he really like have been pretty bad) and I feel he does grade drafts more on who you didn't pick rather than how the player fits with whatever team drafted him.

But I agree that Mike Mayock is the best. Only time I really saw him whiff bad was the 09 draft when he said Robert Ayers would be the dest defensive player in the draft in 3 years, and Pat White would be a starting QB in the NFL
 
ChambersWI said:
McShay's first year with ESPN he was awful (biggest issue I saw was he said Leon Hall was not a good cover CB), but I think he's gotten better and feel he's right more than he is wrong now.

Kiper does get very indignant if you don't draft somebody he likes (and in recent years the guys he really like have been pretty bad) and I feel he does grade drafts more on who you didn't pick rather than how the player fits with whatever team drafted him.

But I agree that Mike Mayock is the best. Only time I really saw him whiff bad was the 09 draft when he said Robert Ayers would be the dest defensive player in the draft in 3 years, and Pat White would be a starting QB in the NFL
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I forget the name of the site that quantitatively evaluates the qualitative evaluators but from what I recall, I believe Rich Goselin usually has one of the best Batting Avgs.. and that includes Mayock.
 
ChambersWI said:
McShay's first year with ESPN he was awful (biggest issue I saw was he said Leon Hall was not a good cover CB), but I think he's gotten better and feel he's right more than he is wrong now.

Kiper does get very indignant if you don't draft somebody he likes (and in recent years the guys he really like have been pretty bad) and I feel he does grade drafts more on who you didn't pick rather than how the player fits with whatever team drafted him.

But I agree that Mike Mayock is the best. Only time I really saw him whiff bad was the 09 draft when he said Robert Ayers would be the dest defensive player in the draft in 3 years, and Pat White would be a starting QB in the NFL
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slimm said something eerily similar to me about ayers also back then...anyways...espn as a whole a waste of time imo unless its a live game coverage...those talking heads on there are just a waste of time...in any sport
 
hooshoops said:
slimm said something eerily similar to me about ayers also back then...anyways...espn as a whole a waste of time imo unless its a live game coverage...those talking heads on there are just a waste of time...in any sport
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I never understood the love Ayers got. He was never that impressive at Tennessee and then just had a great lead up to the draft. Atleast ESPN has stopped giving away who was being picked before the pick was announced. That got so annoying
 
J Tes said:
What's my opinion? That his IQ is higher than a potatoe? I'm fairly certian thats a fact. Or that he's had a long, lucrative career? Also, fact.
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ChambersWI said:
I never understood the love Ayers got. He was never that impressive at Tennessee and then just had a great lead up to the draft. Atleast ESPN has stopped giving away who was being picked before the pick was announced. That got so annoying
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one year wonder to me in college...but he did have a ton of momentum as the draft approached...taken a while but it seems he's finally contributing in denver...not special by any means
 
hell I could have had 2 sacks againt that OL in Pittsburgh. Truth be told he had 3 sacks all season despite Elvis Dummerville and Von Miller detroying OLs the last half of the year
 
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