Let's be frank....

[datruth55]

Not talking about Mike Wallace and the short passes which both of those TDs were short. I'm talking about Mike Wallace downfield. You guys can keep defending Mike Wallace but when he starts doing this then I'll give him credit.

Jordy Nelson...and don't tell me the ball placement on all these throws are perfect.
[video=youtube;0t97iUtHi00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t97iUtHi00[/video]

 

[Gonzo]

Not talking about Mike Wallace and the short passes which both of those TDs were short. I'm talking about Mike Wallace downfield. You guys can keep defending Mike Wallace but when he starts doing this then I'll give him credit.

Jordy Nelson...and don't tell me the ball placement on all these throws are perfect.
[video=youtube;0t97iUtHi00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t97iUtHi00[/video]

Wow, the ball placement on a majority of those throws was fantastic, the last one being one of the few that was bad. Leading the receiver, hitting him on the run, and placing the ball where only his receiver can catch it, I wish we had that. Of course, Nelson is a more well-rounded WR than Wallace. I don't think anybody would argue against that. Of course, Nelson doesn't play with a QB that completely negates his biggest strength.

 

[flynryan15]

Not talking about Mike Wallace and the short passes which both of those TDs were short. I'm talking about Mike Wallace downfield. You guys can keep defending Mike Wallace but when he starts doing this then I'll give him credit.

Jordy Nelson...and don't tell me the ball placement on all these throws are perfect.
[video=youtube;0t97iUtHi00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t97iUtHi00[/video]

Give me a break! What was Wallace suppose to do yesterday on that piss poor deep ball? No way he can high point it when db is already there and jumping over him because the qb put the db in a position for success not the wr. Like Archuletta said after the play Tannehill should have unloaded and thrown that ball to the opposite hash or beyond and let Wallace accelerate under it. Through 2 games this year Wallace had backed up his talk, he is catching the ball, and making plays. The reason you go at him item and early is because his game breaking ability! You know why Hartline dropped his deep ball? Because once again he was starting to trip over his own feet! Same with the deep in he dropped Hartlines jump was awkward because his toe and heel hit.

 

[roy_miami]

Personally, I think the Bills are much better than the average fan thinks and they are pretty much in the exact same spot we were at the beginning of Tannehill's second season. Which is to say they have a good team that can make some noise with efficient QB play. I've been extremely impressed with some of the roster moves by their GM. Sammy Watkins is a ****ing manimal and he's going to ruin many a game for us. Him combined with Spiller? Look da **** out. And I never got the Manuel hate. Is it just because he's a Bill? I never follow college football, was he horrible there? I know I was kind of impressed in what I saw of him last season. Manuel has a 96 rating through two games, if he maintains that the Bills will not only make the playoffs but they'll likely win the AFC East. Its unfortunate for them Watkins is so banged up.

The Dolphins are going to lose games, that's just a simple fact. We're a system based team. What that means is we rely on percentages. If each individual player in the system is able to win their individual battle 80% of the time the team will win 80% of the games, simple as that. Its not sexy but it is what it is. And maybe in our favor if the offense, defense and special teams are going to be bad at certain points of the season to the tune of 20% each it actually may be preferable that it all coincides in the same game. Especially a road game. And that is what happened. The offense was horrible (which isn't really that abnormal). Special teams gave up 10 points and a lot of field position, that is abnormal. And we let their QB pass to the tune of a 98 rating, which is abnormal for our defense too. It was just a total systemic failure in all three phases.

People need to step back from the ledge though. Tannehill will have good games and as bad as the system made everybody look at Buffalo it'll have people singing the praises of Tannehill, Philbin, Lazor and Coyle once again. Is it really a system designed to win to the tune of 80%? We'll just have to wait and see on that.

Having said all of that losing Moreno was a huge blow. Wallace is the only other guy I see on offense bringing any passion to that side of the ball, for that reason we probably need to keep trying to feed him.

Despite everything Landry was looking great in the passing game. It looks like the chemistry and timing is already almost there. The Tannehill to Landry connection looked completely out of place compared to the rest of the passing game. Everything else looked like a frazzled mess but it looked like simple pitch and catch between those two. Thats a good sign and bodes well for the rest of the season.

Bottom line for me is I still believe in the system and I'm sticking with my 10 wins prediction. At the very least the possibility of 10 wins will still be in play in late December.

 

[maralieus]

I didn't get to watch the game and really don't want to at this point. However, I really appreciate the write up. It gives me a good idea of what happened with some good analysis as well.

did you watch the game in buffalo last year? If so you did see it!

 

[Wildbill3]

we simply don't have the horses, or the horses are injured or they are suspended. I'm waiting to see what happens with our defense once they get past the injuries and suspensions before I really make up my mind about their potential. As to the offense, I saw so much crap that was shades hell, complete mirror images of last year... how many times did you just yell at the tv... get rid of the damn ball?! It felt like every damn pass. This kid may be shell shocked from last year, and maybe his two years with Sherman have damaged his instincts about actually keeping the ball and running with it. ON the flip side a running QB seems to have a very short shelf life in the NFL. Overall, without Moreno on the field, you could absolutely tell the offense played with zero emotion, and philbin... I don't care if you have zero confidence in your QB, you play to win the game, that bull**** at the end of the 1st half, absolutely brought back every concern I had about him as a head coach, and I'm starting to walk towards the bring in hardball bandwagon.

 

[roy_miami]

Getting rid of Carpenter was a big mistake. He makes almost every kick and booms it thru the end zone on kickoffs.
everyone of his kicks from right to left went thru the endzone. Then Sturgis kicks a line drive and it only makes it 2 yards deep giving Spiller the chance.

get a damn kicker that can eliminate the kickoff return for the other team.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I saw Carpenter on the sideline during a Bills kickoff, which means they are carrying two kickers.

 

[trojanma]

The Bills fan here mentioned they use a Kickoff specialist

 

[roy_miami]

On a side note look at all of the injuries on the roster. I think it should be noted this may just not be by accident. Moreno who fell down and hurt his own hand has a injury history, .

I guess you didn't see the closeup replay of that because he didn't just "fall down and hurt his own hand." He got a helemt in the back of the elbow bending his arm in a very unnatural way. It was actually pretty gruesome to see and I knew at that moment he would be out for more than a few series or even just a few games.

 

[Phantom]

Damn that Wallace for being wide open !!! Maybe he should throw the ball to himself.

 

[datruth55]

Wow, the ball placement on a majority of those throws was fantastic, the last one being one of the few that was bad. Leading the receiver, hitting him on the run, and placing the ball where only his receiver can catch it, I wish we had that. Of course, Nelson is a more well-rounded WR than Wallace. I don't think anybody would argue against that. Of course, Nelson doesn't play with a QB that completely negates his biggest strength.

Really? lol....that first throw at the 27 second mark would have everyone here criticizing Tannehill that he threw the ball 3 yards out of bounds and Nelson saved him. The catch at the 46 second mark would have people saying Tannehill threw the ball too high...good thing Nelson is 6'3". The catch at 1:02 was high and Nelson does a 180 to snatch it out of the air. The catch at 1:06 Nelson jumps over the defender cause the ball was under thrown and inside. The catch at 1:13 was also underthrown...no criticism of "if he leads the receiver its a TD"? Jordan makes a great adjustment, keeps his feet inbounds and makes a great catch. The catch at 1:22 was a poorly thrown ball...Jordan is racing up the sidelines and if Rodgers leads him might end up being 6...he instead throws short and back shoulder...Nelson does a 180, keeps his feet inbounds and makes the catch. The catch at 2:15...again short but Nelson high points the ball and makes the play. The catch at 2:37...again doesn't put the ball out in front of Nelson enough to lead him. The catch at 2:53...short and should have been picked off but Nelson reaches over the defender and makes the play.

I'm judging these throws with the same hyper-critical eye Tannehill is being measured with on this board. The same hyper-critical eye. Regardless Rodgers still has better ball placement downfield but don't kid yourself...Nelson makes Rodgers a better downfield passer.

 

[NY8123]

You wanna be frank, it is really simple, you live and die by Tannehill this season, period. There is no more excuses for Ryan, it is his third year and he needs to make a step change, sadly it isn't looking good through two games. I am a believer of stay the course however, you let him struggle and you live and die by him. If at seasons end he is marginal, you take a QB in the 2015 draft, end of story.

I'm a Tannehill supporter only because I see the bigger picture, and that picture doesn't include guys like Matt Moore, Brady Quinn, Seth Lobato or any other 2nd string garbage as the answer. If Ryan Tannehill ends up in that garbage pile so be it but I'll always strive for more instead of settling for less, which by the way is what has lead the Miami Dolphins to this juncture in time, settling for less at the QB level.

I said it when they drafted Tannehill, at least they took a shot, if you miss reload and shoot again. It isn't like you are breaking the bank for a QB in the 1st round anymore. You let Tannehill play for better or for worse, it is what it is and either way the answer is going to come in the next 14 weeks.

 

[phintim]

I guess you didn't see the closeup replay of that because he didn't just "fall down and hurt his own hand." He got a helemt in the back of the elbow bending his arm in a very unnatural way. It was actually pretty gruesome to see and I knew at that moment he would be out for more than a few series or even just a few games.

The hand or arm he caught himself on when he was hitting the ground was not the one that was hit. The defender was hitting the other hand holding the ball. The point is that in his time with Denver except for last year Moreno proved to get damaged or hurt every year. Your playing against the odds to bring in injury plagued players from other teams and suddenly expect them to play healthy for your team. Last years draft consisted of almost all players who had injuries coming out of college. This year it appeares we went the small college route but of the 7 who made the team only 2 are playing healthy, Laundry and James.

 

[phintim]

You wanna be frank, it is really simple, you live and die by Tannehill this season, period. There is no more excuses for Ryan, it is his third year and he needs to make a step change, sadly it isn't looking good through two games. I am a believer of stay the course however, you let him struggle and you live and die by him. If at seasons end he is marginal, you take a QB in the 2015 draft, end of story.

I'm a Tannehill supporter only because I see the bigger picture, and that picture doesn't include guys like Matt Moore, Brady Quinn, Seth Lobato or any other 2nd string garbage as the answer. If Ryan Tannehill ends up in that garbage pile so be it but I'll always strive for more instead of settling for less, which by the way is what has lead the Miami Dolphins to this juncture in time, settling for less at the QB level.

I said it when they drafted Tannehill, at least they took a shot, if you miss reload and shoot again. It isn't like you are breaking the bank for a QB in the 1st round anymore. You let Tannehill play for better or for worse, it is what it is and either way the answer is going to come in the next 14 weeks.

Your on target here, its important that Sherman hit the street and we get a chance to see what we have with Ryann T. I also believe it is important to give it a little time to see if Lazor can make a difference with the kid as RT only played under one system and one coach and it takes a little time to unwind what Sherman "may" have caused.

 

[datruth55]

You wanna be frank, it is really simple, you live and die by Tannehill this season, period. There is no more excuses for Ryan, it is his third year and he needs to make a step change, sadly it isn't looking good through two games. I am a believer of stay the course however, you let him struggle and you live and die by him. If at seasons end he is marginal, you take a QB in the 2015 draft, end of story.

I'm a Tannehill supporter only because I see the bigger picture, and that picture doesn't include guys like Matt Moore, Brady Quinn, Seth Lobato or any other 2nd string garbage as the answer. If Ryan Tannehill ends up in that garbage pile so be it but I'll always strive for more instead of settling for less, which by the way is what has lead the Miami Dolphins to this juncture in time, settling for less at the QB level.

I said it when they drafted Tannehill, at least they took a shot, if you miss reload and shoot again. It isn't like you are breaking the bank for a QB in the 1st round anymore. You let Tannehill play for better or for worse, it is what it is and either way the answer is going to come in the next 14 weeks.

And this is a bad year to be looking for a QB in that draft.

Winston may be the best QB but I'm not convinced he's coming out and so far he's gotten away with stealing a laptop, a scooter, crab legs and rape. I don't think in today's NFL that's a guy you can count on.

Mariota is another RG III to me. A guy who has a tendency to leave a clean pocket because he prefers to play outside of the pocket. He'll have a short shelf life like RG III...and the polish on Kaepernick is coming off. Harbaugh is losing that team.

Hundley is a fraud. He's looked pretty pedestrian.

I haven't seen enough of Hogan, Cook and Mannion yet to get a gage. I like Cook last year but that kid is a rail and not very athletic. Hogan last year made some poor decisions and his ball placement wasn't great and I didn't like his arm strength.