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Sounds like success can come without an elite QB. I buy that. Good teams can be built with consistently disciplined play and upper third talent.
Well at least in Jacksonville it’s working. Wentz IMHO is in his way to being elite. In LA, Goff is developing into a solid QB. But the common denominator in all three teams are strong defenses with above average running games. A Shula staple in his early years.
 
Well at least in Jacksonville it’s working. Wentz IMHO is in his way to being elite. In LA, Goff is developing into a solid QB. But the common denominator in all three teams are strong defenses with above average running games. A Shula staple in his early years.

But do you really think Blake Bortles will outplay Tom Brady in a playoff game? Marrone will out coach Belichick? Not a chance. Not now not in 3 years
 
Sounds like success can come without an elite QB. I buy that. Good teams can be built with consistently disciplined play and upper third talent.


It can, but it requires the unlikely prospect of compiling enough talent at positions other than QB to compensate for the non-elite QB.

Think about it like this -- the 2016 Dolphins' passer rating was 95.5, slightly above average. Its opponents' passer rating was 88.5, right about average. A differential of +7 points.

That made them a weak sixth seed that got waxed in round one of the playoffs.

Compare that to the Patriots' passer rating of 109.5, and its opponents' passer rating of 84.4 -- a differential of +25 points. That much greater imbalance in favor of the Patriots produced a 14-2 record, a first-round bye, and home-field advantage throughout the playoffs, and we know what that led to.

Look at the difference there -- Tom Brady versus Ryan Tannehill and Matt Moore (who played well), and what that can do.

The Dolphins would've needed to have a defense that held its opponents to a passer rating of 70.5 to produce the same differential as the Patriots.

Now think of how unlikely that is. Between 2004 and 2016 there were a mere 20 teams of the 416 that held their opponents to a passer rating between 68 and 72.

So there is a mere 4.8% chance that the Dolphins -- given the level of QB play they had in 2016 -- would've performed well enough on defense to produce the situation the Patriots were in, heading into the 2016 playoffs.

So you can see there what a Tom Brady can do for you. If you don't have the likes of him, you need a highly unlikely level of play elsewhere to situate yourself in the most favorable conditions heading into the playoffs.
 
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yep, blow it up.. in a tough spot cap wise with no hope of contending, trade anyone worth a **** and blow it the **** up

Easier said than done, No team out there is going to want to take over our inflated contracts unless
Tannebaum has a brother running another team into the ground
 
Easier said than done, No team out there is going to want to take over our inflated contracts unless
Tannebaum has a brother running another team into the ground

The only two players of significant trade value would be Tannehill and Ja'Wuan James. Timmons and Xavien Howard may have 5-7 th round value; however, if you are able to get a couple 2nd rounders a 5th and a 6th.....A good GM can do some very good things with just those picks, and just those moves alone clear nearly 40 mil in cap. Pouncey and Julius Thomas another 14 mil cleared. A good GM could make vast improvements with those kind of resources.

Kiko,Branch,and any other under performing veteran with too much guaranteed money on the books would have to come in 2019 and forward, unless they can't really contribute at all and are soundly beat out by other players, but the dead cap would be obscene.
 
our record may be 4-5 but it could just as easily be 0-9
we have been outscored by almost a 100 points
and we have given up over 40 points to two teams that are not exactly offensive jugger naughts
We have three receiver better than Carolina's top receiver and they hang 45 up on us
That is the nature of football. Bottom line is that we are 4-5 and currently in the playoff hunt. If we were healthy we could be 9-0 for all we know.
 
But do you really think Blake Bortles will outplay Tom Brady in a playoff game? Marrone will out coach Belichick? Not a chance. Not now not in 3 years

Great post. There was another great post by <O> immediately below yours. Teams like Jacksonville are doing swell for mid November. I appreciate the intensity level and wish we could borrow it. But it would require a series of favorable matchups for them to be a factor deep into the playoffs. In this era you need either a great quarterback or at least a half dozen great defensive players. Since I'm always about the easier and more foundational route I'd like to shop for option number one. That quarterback can hang around a decade or more while you might get lucky and maintain the defense for 3-4 years maximum. Seattle has stretched that 3-4 a little bit but the defense is hardly what it was.
 
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The league has caught on how to beat their defense and Miami Hasn’t adjusted. Baltimore exposed them big time:
That is the nature of football. Bottom line is that we are 4-5 and currently in the playoff hunt. If we were healthy we could be 9-0 for all we know.
actually we know we would not be 9-0. Injuries happen and that is a true test of a coach
3rd place in our division and tied with two teams that beat us already this year
At this point very few teams are not in playoff possibilities but we currently sit in the 8th spot with two games vs N.E and Buffalo remaining
Plus we travel to KC and Denver. Lets just ignore that we have been outscored by 100 points
 
actually we know we would not be 9-0. Injuries happen and that is a true test of a coach
3rd place in our division and tied with two teams that beat us already this year
At this point very few teams are not in playoff possibilities but we currently sit in the 8th spot with two games vs N.E and Buffalo remaining
Plus we travel to KC and Denver. Lets just ignore that we have been outscored by 100 points
Actually we have no idea what our record would be if tannehill was healthy. True that lots of teams are still in contention but we certainly are as well. None of the teams left on our schedule are juggernauts. Of course, our offense has been disappointing, but I feel like we’ve began to establish some kind of offensive identity over the past two weeks.
 
But do you really think Blake Bortles will outplay Tom Brady in a playoff game? Marrone will out coach Belichick? Not a chance. Not now not in 3 years
The league is suffering from a serious lack of elite QBs right now. What little they have are injured. In the AFC Brady has no QB to worry about outplaying him in the Playoffs. It’s Brady and Roethlisberger and that’s it. South have no elite QBs, and no one in the east after New England has one either. North is just Roethlisberger. And the West you have Carr who took a slight step back this year.
 
Actually we have no idea what our record would be if tannehill was healthy. True that lots of teams are still in contention but we certainly are as well. None of the teams left on our schedule are juggernauts. Of course, our offense has been disappointing, but I feel like we’ve began to establish some kind of offensive identity over the past two weeks.

The pats only have the best record in the league and easy to show some offense when the other team is beating you by three tds. Outside of the one long run our run game was crap
 
The only two players of significant trade value would be Tannehill and Ja'Wuan James. Timmons and Xavien Howard may have 5-7 th round value; however, if you are able to get a couple 2nd rounders a 5th and a 6th.....A good GM can do some very good things with just those picks, and just those moves alone clear nearly 40 mil in cap. Pouncey and Julius Thomas another 14 mil cleared. A good GM could make vast improvements with those kind of resources.

Kiko,Branch,and any other under performing veteran with too much guaranteed money on the books would have to come in 2019 and forward, unless they can't really contribute at all and are soundly beat out by other players, but the dead cap would be obscene.

Don't forget Landry on the tag.
 
In defence of the defense ...(see what i did there ...)... time of possession is a big stat...35 mins to 25 in panthers favour...nothing like tiring a defence out. offence not converting 3rd down mean very little rest for the defence. Saw a stat during the game that Suh had played 86% of defensive snaps this season...thats alot of time on the field..

What's even worse than that is Kiko Alonso has played 100% of the defensive snaps this season
573 aimless snaps
 
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