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I don't think most people outside of the Dolphins fan base see it the same way you do. They believe that Gus will be a caretaker this year, because AJ had a chance to prove himself as a starter and didn't do it. Next year we go after a franchise QB.
 
Awesome post bro! And I refer to that of 'TheCoordinator'. I hope Feeley gets at least a qtr with the starters if Gus falters again against the Bucs.....
 
FinFan57 said:
I don't think most people outside of the Dolphins fan base see it the same way you do. They believe that Gus will be a caretaker this year, because AJ had a chance to prove himself as a starter and didn't do it. Next year we go after a franchise QB.
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I think that anyone that believes that we should take any stock whatsoever in Feeley's performance under Wanstedt is fooling themselves. This is the first year that we will get an accurate picture of whether Feeley can be an effective QB. As far as I am concerned, last year never happened, and Feeley has a clean slate. How many QB have we seen that have been put into a new system and have flourished after struggling with a poor one? Steve Young, Gannon, Plummer, Collins, etc. all showed their true abilities when paired with a better system. Let Feeley play and if he shows nothing, then we have Frerotte to be care taker for the rest of the season. But he has to have a shot with a real OC, an improved line (hopefully), defense, running game, etc. Otherwise this season is a waste no matter if we are 4-12 or 8-8.
 
I hope someone forwards the original post to Jason Garrett. I really want to see AJ get a fair chance to start the Tampa Bay game.

Someone mentioned that it feels like this QB competition has been a sham this year, just like last. Watching the various rotations when each QB is in the game this preseason, I couldn't help but feel the same.

I think Mr. Feeley is getting the shaft again...
 
MDFINFAN said:
Very good post, one that shows what a lot of people are saying, if Gus knows this system that well, he should have outdistance AJ so far that it's quit obvious who should start. The fact that AJ is this close if not even at this point of his learning this O should tell football ppl that AJ clearly shows the most upside. I remember the Daute early days in this O, and you're right, they weren't pretty. I would love to see AJ in one O for 2 years starting here in Miami. Who ppl on this board expect a QB to play lights out the very first year they're in a system..I still don't understand that type of thinking. Usually it's the 2nd year that things start clicking..that's true of Farve, Elway, Kelley, Marino, and all the greats. After 4 years Bradshaw was still having problems, Brees just turned in on last year after 3 years, and Manning went 3-13 in his first year. Why do ppl on this board expect a QB to light it up in year one? That's why I say start AJ and let him grow with the rest of the team.
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Well thoughtout commentary from The Coordinator and all of the rest..This thread response shows how much we love our team and Know our team...

My only comment is I wish that Nick Saban could read these accurate assessments...Seriously, it surely would give him even
more insight into our team.
 
I agree with you to a point coordinator. Steve Young progressed a lot under Joe montana because he prepared really well and improved greatly in all the years behind montana. I personally think that AJ feeley's aspect to the game that you can change is the mental aspect of it. Physically he can throw the balls but in a live game with thousands of people in front of him and a big tackle coming his way is something different. I really am not expecting anything at all from feeley.
 
On a sidenote, it's convenient to leave out that Linehans offense is a vertical passing offense, especially when Feeley completed 16 passes for 95 yards, longest being 12. That makes Feeley a pretty horrible fit in the offense, and might shed some light on why Gus was brought in.
 
touborg said:
On a sidenote, it's convenient to leave out that Linehans offense is a vertical passing offense, especially when Feeley completed 16 passes for 95 yards, longest being 12. That makes Feeley a pretty horrible fit in the offense, and might shed some light on why Gus was brought in.
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You're right, Linehan's system is a vertical passing offense and I'm sure he's the one doing the play calling from upstairs. Meaning, IMO, what we see from Feeley is what Linehan is calling.
 
Very good post.....

I agree.

Frerotte is NOT the long-term answer, even if he does perform OK this year.
Thus, let's find out ONCE AND FOR ALL if Feeley can develop over the course of the year.

Then, if Feeley's a bust, we'll know for sure, and we can draft/trade for a QB accordingly.
 
bdmagnum said:
You're right, Linehan's system is a vertical passing offense and I'm sure he's the one doing the play calling from upstairs. Meaning, IMO, what we see from Feeley is what Linehan is calling.
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I'm not sure you're familiar with what playcalling is, or how it works, and since I don't have the patience and explain it to you, I'll give you a quick hint instead. Linehan doesn't tell Feeley to throw short, he gives him a play, and whether he goes short or deep, that's up to feeley (granted, not all plays have the recievers going deep, but all 16 completions short yardage plays? fat chance).
 
You also may not realize a recent post (I believe it was a training camp blog), that indicated the coaching staff wanted AJ to specifically work on his short passing game (touch passes and dump offs) and Gus his long ball timing with the WRs. So each QB going into the Pitt game was given specific instructions to do what you saw.

Can anyone recall the thread where this was dicussed?
 
Hostile 17 said:
You also may not realize a recent post (I believe it was a training camp blog), that indicated the coaching staff wanted AJ to specifically work on his short passing game (touch passes and dump offs) and Gus his long ball timing with the WRs. So each QB going into the Pitt game was given specific instructions to do what you saw.

Can anyone recall the thread where this was dicussed?
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Congratulations, of all the horrible excuses made for AJ the past year, this one is number 1!
 
touborg said:
I'm not sure you're familiar with what playcalling is, or how it works, and since I don't have the patience and explain it to you, I'll give you a quick hint instead. Linehan doesn't tell Feeley to throw short, he gives him a play, and whether he goes short or deep, that's up to feeley (granted, not all plays have the recievers going deep, but all 16 completions short yardage plays? fat chance).
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I understand Linehan gives Feeley a play and Feeley has to decide whether to throw long or short based on who's open. As I said before, IMO, Feeley threw to the open man, based on the play Linehan gave him, how much time the OL gave him and what the defense presented. He didn't force a throw that led to a INT and he was moving the chains. He showed progression, wouldn't you agree?
 
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