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Looking Back on the Brandon Marshall Trade

The difference is Marshall has played on some good teams, Calvin has mostly played on bad teams. Den was always in the playoff hunt and always came up short, same thing is happening in Chicago and marshall as good as he is isn't half of what Calvin Johnson is.

You're aware that Marshall doesn't play defense, right? You also realize there's 32 other starters on the team, don't you?
 
we got garbage out of that deal...hot garbage

Chicago's GM bent Ireland over and took all that was sacred...

That deal alone should have been grounds for firing...two 3rds....**** off with that Ireland...
 
i get the 2 3rd round picks given the situaution but the players picked with those picks...UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
You're aware that Marshall doesn't play defense, right? You also realize there's 32 other starters on the team, don't you?

wasn't great the last 2 weeks in losses and they missed the playoffs by a game.
 
Good job. You just completely ignored my 2 questions. Typical post by the spinmeister. :lol:

I can't help you if fantasy stats impress you.

are you trying to rub it in? If you are, then you know what you can do.
Straight up

how am I rubbing anything in discussing Marshall not doing much the last 2 weeks for Chicago?
 
i get the 2 3rd round picks given the situaution but the players picked with those picks...UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Jeff Ireland...Like a Boss

(10 pages and nobody writes this? You guys are slippin'. Sorry WV had to do it.)
 
Ireland got what he could for Marshall, look at what the jests gave up for Santonio for comparison.

Marshall has been in the media a lot since he signed on Orpah.

He has said more than once that he would not have recovered fully if he stayed in Miami.

He is a talented player but a tremendous head case, a medically proven headcase with a serious diagnosis, TO didn't have that and look at the carnival that followed him around.
 
Chicago's GM bent Ireland over and took all that was sacred...

That deal alone should have been grounds for firing...two 3rds....**** off with that Ireland...

With Marshall facing possible suspension, he wasn't going to get a much better deal than that and from what was being reported, Chicago was the only team willing to do a trade for the troubled but talented receiver.
 
Marshall showed up on the field regardless of his situation(s) or his feelings, just the type of player he was/is, but with the same respect, if he was unhappy with things in life or football related, he tended to let that slide into personal life/off the field stuff, which resulted in some *situations* that led to the team forcing their hand of ok we have to get something in return for this guy before he implodes. Where he is at now in life and his mental state is all of his own doing and willing to get help/to help, given how the franchise handled a few situations/players, I highly doubt Marshall offered some serious help within the team's reach, and I say that based on the out of nowhere trade of Bess, do we see a pattern here? Player(s) were showing signs that all could see or the team at least and instead of risk reward via dealing with the player and their situation, this franchise shipped them out for a quick fix and future picks of what could be deemed as Philbin type players, just so happens Ireland was captain of the boat & used picks on some misses instead of drafting some Joe guys(I'm sure Joe agreed to some of the picks, so not saying he's not at fault) or hell, could have used some picks we got from marshall trade/bess move to produce more picks via moving back and then traded extra picks for Albert that Joe wanted.

Our team was a mess before Big Tuna/ireland showed up, but once they arrived, that mess turned into a stirring pot of crap that splashed every ounce of this franchise. Odd draft picks, weird trades, & so on. If you look back to hardknocks footage, before we traded V.Davis, he was allowed to try and show he could produce/learn the system & more, when he showed Joe it wasn't happening, they held that little meeting, all agreed get something for him. I'm sure Joe was told about/seen footage of Marshall on & off the field, could he have known his vision would take time to build and knew Marshall would end up being unhappy, then taking unhappiness & displaying it off the field aka more situations? Maybe, who knows, but regardless of if Joe said trade him or not, the value of the player netted falls on the GM, even if a coach(es) wants the player(s) traded. The packers offense was a collection of players that produced, so if you had the chance to turn 1 star player(which hasn't helped break the playoff bubble) into 2 or 3 players that spread the field, would you? It was a gamble that didn't pay off with who we used the picks. I 100% agree that RT to Marshall on the field would have been amazing and very well may have put butts in the stadium seats, but 1 star player backed by a good defense in history hasn't done this franchise squat(Marino days, Ricky days), so yes we could be making some highlight reels on NFLN & Espn and feel shocked/amazed by some amazing throw/catch between the two, but what does it matter when it nets the team nothing more then subpar results? I loved getting Marshall, instantly got his jersey, blurted out the "oh sh*t" lines at some of his plays, he was/is a great talent but much like the Bears since they got him, what has any team done that had/has him? A playoff or two game, then it's back to sitting in offseason as fans watching rewind moments of some sick catch(mine was watching him against the Cowboys)
 
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Philbin pushed for the ouster of a back-to-back 1000 yard receiver. Our brilliant GM netted 2 3rd round picks. Those picks ended up being 3 picks after a trade down in 2012. Those players?

Michael Egnew
BJ Cunningham
Will Davis

Cunningham never even made the team. Egnew is awful, and who knows with Davis.

The trade also left us without any viable receivers in 2012, and forced us to blow 100 million on Wallace in 2013 - who btw ended up having similar personality and chemistry problems as Marshall.

Meanwhile Marshall has remained one of the top WRs in the league and just received a contract extension.

What an awful trade all around. And if anyone tries to absolve Philbin of this mess, shut it. He was just as culpable as Ireland.


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It's been awhile now. Get over it already. We can't change what happened, it's over, it's time to move on. Why are you rehashing something that will not change. We get it, you hate Philbin, and Ireland. Well, Ireland is gone and Philbin is here. Stop crying about it.
 
It's been awhile now. Get over it already. We can't change what happened, it's over, it's time to move on. Why are you rehashing something that will not change. We get it, you hate Philbin, and Ireland. Well, Ireland is gone and Philbin is here. Stop crying about it.

I was posting a recent article... Take it up with the ESPN blogger if you don't like it. Not like there is anything else to talk about in the dead of the off season anyway...
 
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