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Looking Back on the Brandon Marshall Trade

We had a guy who caused problems. Some for us, lots for the opponents. Somehow we prioritized the first part and acted as if the second didn't matter. After all, since I've been on this site, let's see, we had Larry Chester touted as a special player, same for Matt Roth, then Davone Bess, followed by Reshad Jones. You don't need Brandon Marshall types when those guys are dominating sigs.

When I was a kid we had a team full of rare ability. Now in the rare instances it shows up we prefer to nitpick the faults, like Reggie Bush and the jitterbugging skinny legs, or Vontae Davis and his grandmother. Frankly it's difficult not to sit back and marvel at the hilarity. I don't know how a great record is supposed to materialize when not only don't we have great players, but we don't even make the logical attempts to acquire them. Let's draft only once in the top 50 or 60 every year, always take guys who have never been terrific but are either jetting up the boards or we'll force them there all by ourselves, all simultaneous to a home neutral site dependably siphoning 3-5%.

I'll be the first to emphasize that all it takes is one special guy to cleanse and reverse all of the above. Problem is, Steve Ross isn't likely to identify him combined with actually signing him. Fifty percent is a good as a complete whiff, as we saw with Jim Harbaugh.
 
... Problem is, Steve Ross isn't likely to identify him combined with actually signing him. Fifty percent is a good as a complete whiff, as we saw with Jim Harbaugh.

Didn't realize Ross was apart of the scouting dept. :idk:

Harbough sucks. You should stick to losing money on bets.
 
Rookie QB + Rookie Coach = Marshal trade.

Marshal yelling at Henne on the sidelines sealed his fate.

Why you people keep crying over it, idk. Move on.

As if Tannehill would've curled up into a ball because someone yells at him. :lol: He'd handle it and be excited that he has a monster of a WR on our team; something he hasn't had since he entered the league.

Football players yell at each other all the time. Including QBs. No one is exempt. Coaches get yelled at, too. That's the environment. They get over it. The media makes it a huge deal when it's caught on camera and fans like you just eat it up because OF COURSE there's a problem right?

There's exceptions but it happens all the time. That's what happens when you have a roster full of alpha males, top 1% in the world at what they do. One other important note. He was yelling at Henne. Henne wasn't good enough. Whatever Brandon was yelling at him about, I'm sure he deserved it; if he didn't then so what? I'm sure Henne got over it.
 
I don't even want to imagine what Marshall's involvement would have been with the whole Ingoc/Martin ordeal.

Marshall has issues, but I don't think he was ever a bully. In fact, didn't he actually call out Vontae once for showing up to practice drunk? He was prone to throw a QB under the bus, but I don't think his anger ever extended to other members of the team unless they did something to hurt the team in some way like Vontae. As much of a headcase as he was, he actually did value winning.
 
Lets face it....this team has been dysfunctional since Wannstedt got here....and arguably since H Wayne had to beg Jimmy to stay after he had clearly lost interest.

I'm hoping those days are ending but my faith is not at an all time high.
 
brandon marshall: I love you Jay kiss kiss kiss
jay cutler: but i love you more brandon kiss kiss kiss
brandon marshall: no i love you more jay

that's why brandon wanted out of south beach
 
Never liked the idea of trading Marshal. Always the guideline should be that if you have a very good player with some flaws hanging onto him is much better than getting an unknown pick. I guess Philbin and Ireland thought they were smart and could get better players. We have constantly make mistakes like this for a while.
 
Jeff Ireland, brings in ****-heels like Wallace, Incognito and Marshall. drafts a marshmallow, insists marshmallow is the man for the job.

now Marshall sees what happened and after an "acceptable" time lapse states "I am glad I got out of there"

Marshall is and will always be an a-hole. when you can't draft you start accumulating a-holes.
 
Philbin wanted to put his fingerprints on this team and send a message. Personally I would have rathered we hired a different coach who wanted a top 5 WR talent on his team. Maybe we would have made the playoffs
 
Its honestly one of the worst trades you could ever imagine. I was in utter shock when I heard about it. Special kind of pathetically God awful.
 
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Philbin pushed for the ouster of a back-to-back 1000 yard receiver. Our brilliant GM netted 2 3rd round picks. Those picks ended up being 3 picks after a trade down in 2012. Those players?

Michael Egnew
BJ Cunningham
Will Davis

Cunningham never even made the team. Egnew is awful, and who knows with Davis.

The trade also left us without any viable receivers in 2012, and forced us to blow 100 million on Wallace in 2013 - who btw ended up having similar personality and chemistry problems as Marshall.

Meanwhile Marshall has remained one of the top WRs in the league and just received a contract extension.

What an awful trade all around. And if anyone tries to absolve Philbin of this mess, shut it. He was just as culpable as Ireland.


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Philbin is probably not the coach we need just for what you have outlined. Since Shula was forced out we have been dealing with a bunch of empire builders instead of coaches. Shula nack was to take his talent and mold his team and since then it had been the opposite to force the talent to fit the team in the coaches image. We gave away a lot of talent to build the this current team and it is not looking good the defense which was our heart and soul looked crapping by the end of last year and the offense failed to find an identity. Philbin forced out a ton of talent to make his system work so this team is on him, basically admitting he is is not a coach but a system builder. That has not worked for us the past 15 years. Its time to find a real coach.
 
Philbin is probably not the coach we need just for what you have outlined. Since Shula was forced out we have been dealing with a bunch of empire builders instead of coaches. Shula nack was to take his talent and mold his team and since then it had been the opposite to force the talent to fit the team in the coaches image. We gave away a lot of talent to build the this current team and it is not looking good the defense which was our heart and soul looked crapping by the end of last year and the offense failed to find an identity. Philbin forced out a ton of talent to make his system work so this team is on him, basically admitting he is is not a coach but a system builder. That has not worked for us the past 15 years. Its time to find a real coach.

The Dolphins made the playoffs a lot under Shula, mainly because of Dan Marino. He wasn't too good at building a complete team around Marino either. The defense was bad to mediocre until the 90s and he never fixed the running game.
 
He had so many dropped TDs as a Phin. He is a dick. Good riddance. I didn't realize he won a SB with da Bears.
 
The Dolphins made the playoffs a lot under Shula, mainly because of Dan Marino. He wasn't too good at building a complete team around Marino either. The defense was bad to mediocre until the 90s and he never fixed the running game.

Um.....the Dolphins made the playoffs a lot before Marino....Shula coached teams to 5 superbowls before Marino played a down in Miami.
 
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