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Looks like Miller is heading back to oakland

I think we have to remember something very important. The Dolphins only have around $5 million in cap space left. One signing like Miller and you are either at the cap and above it forcing you to cut other players. I think this is why you will be seeing Miami making some lower key signings like possibly O'Hara. They probably will even wait a week or two and start picking up players once their price starts to drop.

Miami is also interested in extending the contracts of Langford, Wake and Soliai. A lot planned for only $5 million in cap spcae.
 
I think we have to remember something very important. The Dolphins only have around $5 million in cap space left. One signing like Miller and you are either at the cap and above it forcing you to cut other players. I think this is why you will be seeing Miami making some lower key signings like possibly O'Hara. They probably will even wait a week or two and start picking up players once their price starts to drop.

Miami is also interested in extending the contracts of Langford, Wake and Soliai. A lot planned for only $5 million in cap spcae.
A Soliai deal would increase our cap space. We could also have done that by not signing another DL, the only position that we have too many good players at.
 
well if they sign Soliai to a new deal that would actually free up cap space because of the franchise tag on him
 
I think we have to remember something very important. The Dolphins only have around $5 million in cap space left. One signing like Miller and you are either at the cap and above it forcing you to cut other players. I think this is why you will be seeing Miami making some lower key signings like possibly O'Hara. They probably will even wait a week or two and start picking up players once their price starts to drop.

Miami is also interested in extending the contracts of Langford, Wake and Soliai. A lot planned for only $5 million in cap spcae.

Then answer this for a fastrated fan. HOW THE HELL are teams like the eagles able to sign 50 players and we sign what 2-3? and now we're up against the cap...what kinda crap is that?
 
Plenty of ways to add to the cap. The Dolphins can essentially be up to $14M under the cap if they wanted to. There's also the provisions allowing you to be over the cap by 3 contracts being sorted accordingly. Don't have the exact wording of this stipulation in front of me right now at the moment, but I know it can be done as a couple other teams are using these methods with the new cap rules. These provisions add millions to your cap.

The bottom line is If the Dolphins played their cards right they could be close to $15M under the cap.

To add to that, Cut guys like Sapp, Culver, etc etc as well as working on a Soliai extension, and maybe reworking Jake's contract to give him more money up front (this is why players rework contracts as they get big money upfront) easily accomplishes PLENTY of cap room to sign 3, or even 4 good players.

So that's no excuse. This team could easily have added guys like Zach Miller, Carl Nicks, another decent to good WR/RB, and maybe another good defensive player if they really wanted to.

The GM of the Jets is great with the cap and it's why they can have room for really good players every year. In one day last week, he restructured 4 big contracts on his team to free up about $7 or 8M in capspace in a day. And hell, it looks like they're about to resign Cromartie now too. We need pro-active people like this in our FO so we can go for the jugular too.

If the Jets didn't have a fast seam-busting TE like Keller, but instead had a slow sloth like Fasano, you know that the Jets would go after Zach Miller hard and find a way to get him under the cap. That's why they're in the AFC Championship every year and on the cusp while the Dolphins are out fishing when the postseason rolls around.

I hate the damn Jets but you have to admire how their front office gets it done and how they're so pro-active. I guarantee you if we had Revis on one side at corner for our defense, that Ireland and company would never consider or contemplate trying to get Nnamdi. But not the Jets, they still try to get the best of the best. They don't catch them every time, but damned if they don't try and go after the best as much as and as often as they can.
 
Thank God we didn't sign him...he would have been a headache (sarcasm).

It's pathetic how terrible this organization is run. If the phrase "if the phins wanted to" was what happened, we would have been Super Bowl bound a long time ago. Some of the decisions are so simple, except to our FO. Just sign Soliai to a deal and get that tag off him. But no!! Our FO believes our roster is set, when we haven't done a damn thing.

"be aggressive in FA"? HAHAHAHAHA
 
A Soliai deal would increase our cap space. We could also have done that by not signing another DL, the only position that we have too many good players at.
Fields is a NT and will be backing up Soliai. We are stacked at defensive end, but very thin behind Soliai. Especially with the only previous depth being a 7th round rookie in Kearse, since Chris Baker was waived yesterday after failing his physical.
 
Plenty of ways to add to the cap. The Dolphins can essentially be up to $14M under the cap if they wanted to. There's also the provisions allowing you to be over the cap by 3 contracts being sorted accordingly. Don't have the exact wording of this stipulation in front of me right now at the moment, but I know it can be done as a couple other teams are using these methods with the new cap rules. These provisions add millions to your cap.

The bottom line is If the Dolphins played their cards right they could be close to $15M under the cap.

To add to that, Cut guys like Sapp, Culver, etc etc as well as working on a Soliai extension, and maybe reworking Jake's contract to give him more money up front (this is why players rework contracts as they get big money upfront) easily accomplishes PLENTY of cap room to sign 3, or even 4 good players.

So that's no excuse. This team could easily have added guys like Zach Miller, Carl Nicks, another decent to good WR/RB, and maybe another good defensive player if they really wanted to.

The GM of the Jets is great with the cap and it's why they can have room for really good players every year. In one day last week, he restructured 4 big contracts on his team to free up about $7 or 8M in capspace in a day. And hell, it looks like they're about to resign Cromartie now too. We need pro-active people like this in our FO so we can go for the jugular too.

If the Jets didn't have a fast seam-busting TE like Keller, but instead had a slow sloth like Fasano, you know that the Jets would go after Zach Miller hard and find a way to get him under the cap. That's why they're in the AFC Championship every year and on the cusp while the Dolphins are out fishing when the postseason rolls around.

I hate the damn Jets but you have to admire how their front office gets it done and how they're so pro-active. I guarantee you if we had Revis on one side at corner for our defense, that Ireland and company would never consider or contemplate trying to get Nnamdi. But not the Jets, they still try to get the best of the best. They don't catch them every time, but damned if they don't try and go after the best as much as and as often as they can.

So we're also incompetent with the CAP? Great!
 
seriously, there is no excuse to this. I just can't understand what this FO is thinking on a daily basis. As someone above already said, it's an easy decision. You have Anthony freaking Fasano as your only TE worth even a penny, and he's barely worth that. Although I will say it's a little strange that no one has even sniffed Miller (at least of what we know), but this is a completely 100% no-brainer decision. Go get freaking Zach Miller.

it's almost like the FO wants to prove that they know more than everyone else. "Oh yea, you think Tedd Ginn is over-rated? We'll show you"....... "Is that right, Pouncey is living off the rep of his brother and doesn't deserve a 1st round grade? We'll see"..........

I'm so sick and tired of them being brain dead. They do exactly the opposite of what makes sense and what would really help the team. Some will say that they get paid to do their job and I'm just a fan on the outside, but guess what, I have results to back me up. Or should I say lack of results. I have had season tickets for I think 6 years now, and I have had to deal with a 1-15 season, and then again last year losing every home game, save 1 pathetic "win" where we sucked less than the titans.

It's disgusting, they are disgusting........ why couldn't I be obsessed with some other team? "But we got a real good 4th string D-Lineman"......... freaking retarded idiots
 
And here is a crazy thought since no team went after Miller hard.... maybe he did not want to leave Oakland and everyone knew that Oakland was going to pay him to stay since he wanted to. Of course that is our FO fault I imagine.
 
Sweet. Another year of watching the short bus catch 3 passes a game.
 
And here is a crazy thought since no team went after Miller hard.... maybe he did not want to leave Oakland and everyone knew that Oakland was going to pay him to stay since he wanted to. Of course that is our FO fault I imagine.

Do you have any hard info of this? It sounds like you're assuming? Seeing as how a dolphin rep was asked about the rumor of having interest in Miller that floated around for a day or so, and he said that neither Miller nor his agent had ever been contacted by the team, that sounds like proof to me.

It could be misinformation, but I'm willing to go with the averages and say that the FO felt Fasano was the man for the job and there was no reason to go after a TE that everyone else says would be an upgrade for us, you know since they have been so dead on with all of their past decisions
 
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