Didn't see Bjoern Werner in either list for or against ... oversight ?
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ckparrothead
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Can't speak for him but for me if I don't have a guy on my good list or my bad list it's just because I'm neutral on him. Not "underrated" nor "overrated". Just..."rated".
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I think Werner is probably valued where I have him for the most part. If he comes off the board anywhere in the 15-20 range, it's a good place in my opinion.
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I already did a brief list of guys I didn't like as much, but I'll expand it.
Tyler Wilson
Zac Dysert
Tyler Bray
Keenan Allen
Robert Woods
Justin Hunter
Zach Ertz
Dion Sims
Menelik Watson
Braxton Cave
Datone Jones
Ezekiel Ansah
Sam Montgomery
Damontre Moore
Johnthan Banks
Jordan Poyer
Some I would barely consider drafting at all (Tyler Bray) and some I just think are wildly overvalued (Ziggy Ansah). If you were to fast forward 3 years, I bet half these guys will be pro-bowlers.
Tyler Wilson
Zac Dysert
Tyler Bray
Keenan Allen
Robert Woods
Justin Hunter
Zach Ertz
Dion Sims
Menelik Watson
Braxton Cave
Datone Jones
Ezekiel Ansah
Sam Montgomery
Damontre Moore
Johnthan Banks
Jordan Poyer
Some I would barely consider drafting at all (Tyler Bray) and some I just think are wildly overvalued (Ziggy Ansah). If you were to fast forward 3 years, I bet half these guys will be pro-bowlers.
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ckparrothead
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Oh man I forgot Zac Dysert. How could I forget him?
And man! Menelik Watson is really unpopular!
I love the guy, lol.
And man! Menelik Watson is really unpopular!
I love the guy, lol.
In your list you mentioned...
Chance Womack
Keenan Allen
Aaron Dobson
I really like all three. Do you just not see the value of where they could be drafted or do you not like their talent?
ckparrothead
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I don't see the value in Warmack where he's rated (mid-1st). I don't see the value in him until much later than that. Keenan Allen doesn't start to get interesting to me until maybe the 3rd round. Dobson I'm just not interested in at all.
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TBH he was more of a last-minute throw in. I felt like I needed more than one o-line, so I just tossed in a guy I wasn't super high on, he doesn't really fit with the rest of the guys on my list.
I know your reasons for not liking Hopkins as much as other people, I'm curious if you'd take Hopkins over Allen or vice versa? I'm really not a fan of Allen, I can think of at least 4 or 5 other WRs I'd take before him.
ckparrothead
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I would take Keenan Allen above DeAndre Hopkins I think. In the end I think Keenan is more physically impressive and also more physical...has a fearless quality to him. I think he CAN run after the catch (why he doesn't do it so well right now, I've no idea).
1. Desmond Trufant- I think he is the best corner in the draft and we need corners.
2. Markus Wheaton- Best WR in the draft. I think he would complete our WR core. Really good route runner.
3. Alec Ogletree- Played ILB at UGA but i think he would be ever better at OLB. Great blitzer and is a former safety so could also do well in coverage.
4. Le'Veon Bell- I think he is the best RB. Reminds me a lot of Arian Foster but he probably doesnt fit our system so doubt this is possible
5. Cordarelle Patterson- Id love him if he was more of a route runner. He can do everything Mike Wallace can do and is bigger so he can break tackles. Id love to get him but i dont know how well it would work to have him and wallace that dont run great routes. Him and Wallace together would have the potential to be deadly though.
2. Markus Wheaton- Best WR in the draft. I think he would complete our WR core. Really good route runner.
3. Alec Ogletree- Played ILB at UGA but i think he would be ever better at OLB. Great blitzer and is a former safety so could also do well in coverage.
4. Le'Veon Bell- I think he is the best RB. Reminds me a lot of Arian Foster but he probably doesnt fit our system so doubt this is possible
5. Cordarelle Patterson- Id love him if he was more of a route runner. He can do everything Mike Wallace can do and is bigger so he can break tackles. Id love to get him but i dont know how well it would work to have him and wallace that dont run great routes. Him and Wallace together would have the potential to be deadly though.
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The more I watch Werner highlights the more I want to watch Tank Carradine. What an underrated prospect. Medicals are huge for him obviously, but a team is getting a heck of a player with an upside. Werner is not a bad pick, but does nothing explosive. He tries hard and works at it, but I do not think he will be special. He will not hurt his team, but not be a difference maker.
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Werner is one of the most explosive players off the snap in this draft.
1st Round
DE Bjoern Werner, FS
OLB Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2nd Round or Move up to 1st round
TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
CB Desmond Trufant, Washington
RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama
3rd Round
WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee
DE Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, FSU (flag: medical)
DE Bjoern Werner, FS
OLB Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2nd Round or Move up to 1st round
TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
CB Desmond Trufant, Washington
RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama
3rd Round
WR Justin Hunter, Tennessee
DE Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, FSU (flag: medical)
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There is nothing quick twitch about him. Try hard guy though.
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Wanted to bump my man crush list. Bolded the picks for the night.