Matt Moore admits he's not a good practice player

[finfan54]

Whether Moore was "great" in preseason or not is a matter of subjective opinion, but your objective claim that Moore was "the top NFL passer in preseason" is not true by any measure. Stephen McGee had the most yards at 610 to Moore's 428. A total of 15 quarterbacks (all of whom had at least 17 pass attempts, 11 of whom had at least 31 pass attempts) had higher passer ratings than Matt Moore's 96.6. A total of 7 quarterbacks threw more touchdowns than Moore, and an additional 7 quarterbacks threw just as many (3 TDs). Among passers with 30+ attempts, 25 of them had a better completion percentage (61.8%).

So no, he wasn't "the top NFL passer in preseason"...though you could certainly argue that he was a good preseason passer. Chad Henne had a 93.4 passer rating, by the way...not far behind Moore's 96.6.

Preseason? Is that what were talkin bout here? Preseason?????

lol

 

[X-FACTOR]

We Still talkin bout PRACTICE!! Practice hasn't even started yet.............. and we talkin bout Practice.

 

[enigmatics]

I agree. Very stupid comment from Moore.

Ruh-Roh! Grab the hater pitchforks and torches guys .... you just got more ammunition to parade around these forums with. LMFAO

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Care to explain how it was an "unwarranted cheap-shot"?

He essentially just said the exact same thing Iverson did in the infamous "we talkin' 'bout practice" rant.

You mean the same practices that guys like Julius Pruitt and Roberto Wallace have repeatedly looked good in over the years.

Let's not got carried away.

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Obviously a combination of both is ideal, but one is as good as the other as long as you're a worker. Poor practice habits and a poor practicer aren't the same thing. The former is what a coach won't tolerate.

Thank you for saying this. These guys seem to equate sub-standard practices as though the guy isn't preparing. Funny how they jump to that conclusion. Man, Tannehill had some poor moments in the Mini-camp .... that must mean he's not prepared! LOL @ fan forum logic.

 

[footsteps_falco]

In his defense, the comment does not say that he doesn't work hard or try to prepare, only that he may not have as much success in practice situations vs game time. That is a somewhat acceptable comment. however, if he feels that practice isn't valuable, and isn't trying as hard, or can't find a way to turn that "switch" on at will, then that sends a poor message to the players which you lead. The great players love practice, its where they master their craft and hone their skills. for a quarterback, who leads the offense, to have the mentality is just somewhat insulting in my opinion. when you go to work, if your boss doesn't work hard, what message does that send to you? that you don't need to go 100%. i think for a quarterback thats exactly what will happen. also if youre not having success or putting 110% into every part of practice and training camp, as a quarterback, you are not only hindering yourself and your own abilities, but the rest of your team, both offense and defense, are not going to get the preparation and practice that they need. this quote IS insulting if you infer that he doesn't value practice enough and therefore doesn't work hard enough in that setting, both to fans and the organization.

 

[luduporcu]

I firmly believe in the saying "You play like you practice." The game is won with preparation.

Then you would have benched or cut LAWRENCE TAYLOR too, right?

 

[Casas9425]

Where and when did this whole "bad practice" thing start anyways? We didnt start to hear this until this offseason, correct me if I am wrong.

Does a bad practice mean he isnt trying?
Does it mean he isnt hitting his receivers?

What does it mean in any real terms? If you make mistakes in practice, thats when your suppose to make them! Thats why its practice!

just sayin...

Sparano hinted that Moore was a bad practice player last year.

 

[ckparrothead]

Oh... lets count the ways...

a.) Iverson's rant was in response to his HEAD COACH's direct criticism that he didn't practice hard enough. Who, among the Dolphins coaching staff has EVER been quoted saying Matt Moore didn't practice hard enough? Do you have quotes of people questioning Moore's effort? Actually, I've heard Joe Philbin, Mike Sherman, Tony Sparano, and others CONSISTENTLY praise Matt Moore for his hard work and preparation... this year and last. Unlike Iverson... Moore's practice EFFORT has never been questioned, that I'm aware of.

b.) Iverson's rant was just that.... a rant. Multiple statements. On and on and on.... not one line in at end of story where Moore already admitted poor practice PERFORMANCE (not effort), and described how he's been trying to improve it year to year (wow, direct EFFORT to improve... not ridiculing the idea practice is important)... and he actually states that he'd like to think game performance matters MOST. Not that practice isn't important - which is what Iverson's rant does IMO... but that game performance should matter MOST.

For clarity's sake... here's what your calling equivalent:

IVERSON:

“We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're talking about practice.”

“I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice.”

“Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it's my last, but we're talking about practice man.”

“How silly is that?”

“Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that, but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything.

“We're talking about practice man.”

"We're talking about practice.”

“We're talking about practice.”

“We're not talking about the game.”

“We're talking about practice.”

“When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you've seen me play right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about practice right now.”

“Hey I hear you, it's funny to me too, hey it's strange to me too, but we're talking about practice man, we're not even talking about the game, when it actually matters, we're talking about practice.”


MOORE:

One reason Moore is even with Garrard, or perhaps slightly behind, is because Moore admittedly isn’t the best practice player. He has a career 80.1 passer rating and 13-12 record as a starter with Miami and Carolina, but seems to play better on Sundays than during the week.

“There is a little truth to that,” Moore said. “I’ve been trying to get better year by year in practice, but does it really matter what I do in practice? I’d like to think that what happens in games matters most.”


c.) Calling someone "Iverson-like"... brings in a lot of baggage that isn't, and shouldn't ever, be associated with Moore.

Here's just "some" of that baggage:

During the 1997 offseason, Iverson and his friends were stopped by policemen for speeding late at night and was arrested for carrying a concealed weapon and for possession of marijuana. He pleaded no contest and was sentenced to community service.

On February 24, 2004, Iverson urinated in a trash can at Bally's Atlantic City casino and was told by casino management not to return.

On December 9, 2005 after the Sixers defeated the Charlotte Bobcats, Iverson paid a late-night visit to the Trump Taj Mahal. After winning a hand at a three-card-stud poker table, Iverson was overpaid $10,000 in chips by a dealer. When the dealer quickly realized the mistake and requested the chips back, Iverson refused and a heated head-turning argument between him and casino staff began. Atlantic City casino regulations reportedly state that when a casino makes a payout mistake in favor of the gambler, he or she must return the money that they did not legitimately win by playing.

Also in 2005, Iverson's bodyguard Jason Kane was accused of assaulting a man at a Washington DC nightclub after the man, Marlin Godfrey, refused to leave the club's VIP section so Iverson's entourage could enter. Godfrey suffered a concussion, a ruptured eardrum, a burst blood vessel in his eye, a torn rotator cuff, cuts and bruises, and emotional injuries. Although Iverson did not touch Godfrey himself, Godfrey sued Iverson for the injuries caused by his bodyguard. In 2007 a jury awarded Godfrey $260,000. The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld the verdict in 2009.

Once after a fight with his wife (she left their house to get away) Iverson used his speed to rack up 14 law offenses as he searched for her with his gun. Although, he was accused of 12 felonies, the testimony in court did not hold up and Iverson was set free.

In a Philadelphia Inquirer column published March 7, 2010, Stephen A. Smith wrote that according to "numerous NBA sources", Iverson would "either drink himself into oblivion or gamble his life away", and that Iverson had already been banned from casinos in Detroit and Atlantic City. Smith also wrote that Tawanna, his wife of eight years, had separated from him and filed for divorce, seeking custody of their five children, as well as child support and alimony payments.

In November 2010, Kate ***an, a 76ers beat writer for the Inquirer reported that Iverson was "broke" and heavily in debt, "by all accounts except his own", and that a member of Iverson's family had previously contacted NBA teams about a contract for him, as he would not be able to pay that person without a contract.

In August 2011, an Ohio man sued Iverson for $2.5 million in damages, claiming he was assaulted by Iverson's security guard in a 2009 bar fight in Detroit. The federal judge dismissed the case, finding no evidence that Iverson or his bodyguard struck the plaintiff, Guy Walker.


To my knowledge... Matt Moore has never even received a speeding ticket.

Now I understand your comparison was in reference just to the comments about practice (which is unfair enough IMO - as I explained above) - relying on the context of the discussion, but when you make the comparison by calling someone "Iverson-like" - you're evoking and inviting all that entails in others minds... or at least expressing ambivalence whether others associate ALL the attributes calling someone "Iverson-like" evokes.

Anyway... Just my opinion. Doesn't count anymore than yours or anyone elses... but I found the comment to be just what I called it: an unwarranted cheap shot. :)

1. I did not call Matt Moore THE PERSON "Iverson-like". I called his STATEMENT Iverson-like. I take no responsibility for people jumping to the conclusion that I'm saying Matt Moore is like Allen Iverson in other ways when I was so clearly talking about the OBVIOUS parallels (which many, many, many more people than myself) made between Matt Moore's statement and Allen Iverson's rant.

2. The statement was exactly that, Allen Iverson-like. It communicated an idea that practice is not important, all that's important are the games. I don't care that Allen Iverson re-stated it about 17 times or if he only stated it one time. It's the same idea and it came from inside both men. The idea being, practice isn't important, games are important. I don't think you have successfully differentiated the two statements to the degree that drawing the same obvious comparison that dozens of people have made across numerous threads on multiple message boards is to be labeled an "unwarranted cheap shot"

Now that I have your attention (perhaps) though.... I would like at least a yes or no (your time permitting) on the question I posed to you in other threads the last two days.

I believe the threads are here:

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/sho...ing-signed-yet-but-Egnew-and-Vernon-!!!/page4

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?321973-ESPN-s-Dolphins-Camp-Watch/page2

And here is a short synopsis of my question:

Regarding your characterization of other posters repeating an assertion I've read in several mainstream media reports (that Dolphins "cap guru" Dawn Aponte, is insisting on offset language in Ryan Tannehills rookie contract)... you stated that to do so, was "just another way to avoid blaming Jeff Ireland for anything bad."

I asked if (hypothetically) someone tweeted out the complete rank speculation that Joe Philbin was desperate to sign Matt Flynn this off season, BUT that Jeff Ireland had intentionally "sabotaged" the contract talks/offer... as if it were a bald fact... <--- a conspiracy theory directly contradicted by Steve Ross in easily referenced quotes. Would that be the opposite of your characterization? <-- Namely, seeking to assign blame to Jeff Ireland, where's its unclear any exists... and what evidence does exist - directly contradicts assigning that blame?

The mere fact that there was an OBVIOUS discrepancy between the language coming out of Joe Philbin about Matt Flynn versus the language coming out from Jeff Ireland about Matt Flynn is pretty strong evidence that there was some disconnect there. And no, Steve Ross did not contradict that idea in easily referenced quotes. All Steve Ross did was suggest that Joe Philbin did not necessarily evaluate him as a franchise quarterback, which would have been unreasonable anyway based on two starts. So posting theories based on evidence is not the same to me as pretending that Dawn Aponte answers to nobody and has total autonomy over getting a guy like Ryan Tannehill signed and in camp. But I appreciate the question which was so obviously targeted at trying to "get" me in some way, lol. Just try harder next time.

 

[ckparrothead]

Where and when did this whole "bad practice" thing start anyways? We didnt start to hear this until this offseason, correct me if I am wrong.

Does a bad practice mean he isnt trying?
Does it mean he isnt hitting his receivers?

What does it mean in any real terms? If you make mistakes in practice, thats when your suppose to make them! Thats why its practice!

just sayin...

It seems to be something that followed Moore from Carolina to Miami but there's obviously something to it when Matt himself is acknowledging it. There's been no implication that he takes it easy in practice but he also isn't performing well in practice, and the fact that he keeps having to try to practice better and get better at performing in practice as opposed to games kind of belies the possibility that effort or at least mentality do have something to do with it.

 

[enigmatics]

It seems to be something that followed Moore from Carolina to Miami but there's obviously something to it when Matt himself is acknowledging it. There's been no implication that he takes it easy in practice but he also isn't performing well in practice, and the fact that he keeps having to try to practice better and get better at performing in practice as opposed to games kind of belies the possibility that effort or at least mentality do have something to do with it.

He's acknowledging that he doesn't practice as well as he plays, but that's it. Any inference there-after is not really relevant because it's not supported by any substantial proof.

When it comes to the stakes, they're different in-game vs. a live opponent. Some people simply respond in a different manner come game day. There's more focus, edge, and intensity. I knew people like that growing up involved in athletics all the way up into college.

 

[dolpns13]

AJ Feeley was admittedly a bad practice player too. Look how that turned out!

 

[wockenbauss]

1. I did not call Matt Moore THE PERSON "Iverson-like". I called his STATEMENT Iverson-like. I take no responsibility for people jumping to the conclusion that I'm saying Matt Moore is like Allen Iverson in other ways when I was so clearly talking about the OBVIOUS parallels (which many, many, many more people than myself) made between Matt Moore's statement and Allen Iverson's rant.

You may not take responsibility... but that doesn't mean it isn't occurring. Why would tazthenomad find it necessary to state: "He doesn't seem like he is so talented that he shouldn't be trying to get the maximum out of practice for his sake and for the sake of his teammates practicing with him."? It can't be because of the story this thread is based on... because in the story Moore actually talks about his effort to improve practice performance. So where would he get the idea Moore thinks he's too good to have to practice? Someone comparing him to someone who DID think he was too good to practice maybe? lol

Once again.... I've never heard a single coach of Moore's ever question his effort in practice, which is EXACTLY what precipitated the entire Iverson rant. I can't find anything ever written about Moore that would cause someone to wonder whether he's a "diva" or question his practice EFFORT at all. Well.. other than someone calling him Allen Iverson-like. lol

On a related note, taking in the totality of Matt Moore's career... if one line in a training camp story out of a 5 year career makes many many many people you know think "Allen Iverson"... I have to think you know a lot of lazy and/or unthoughtful people. No offense meant, but 'unwarranted cheap shot' stands. Its what i thought when I read it... and your further defense of the comment isn't mitigating at all. <-- Not that you care, I'm sure. :)

2. The statement was exactly that, Allen Iverson-like. It communicated an idea that practice is not important, all that's important are the games. I don't care that Allen Iverson re-stated it about 17 times or if he only stated it one time. It's the same idea and it came from inside both men. The idea being, practice isn't important, games are important. I don't think you have successfully differentiated the two statements to the degree that drawing the same obvious comparison that dozens of people have made across numerous threads on multiple message boards is to be labeled an "unwarranted cheap shot"

Sorry.... I think I more than clearly delineated the difference between the two statements.... or actually the one line in a beat reporters training camp story vs. a 20 minute rant PRECIPITATED by being called out for a lack of effort in practice by his head coach. The fact posters are now questioning whether Moore thinks he's too talented to benefit from practice... WHEN HE ACTUALLY MENTIONS HIS EFFORTS TO IMPROVE FROM YEAR TO YEAR IN THE SAME STORY... are directly attributable to your comment (and others - if your to be believed, I haven't seen anyone else making the comment but you).

I disagree heartily that Iverson and Moore were expressing the same thought.... and disagree heartily with the comparison even being made. The "mom, everybody did it" factor... doesn't impress me either. As implied earlier, for someone who should know something about both their careers.. the comparison strikes me as lazy and unthoughtful, or in short - an unwarranted cheap shot.

Although I know you've never liked the Moore signing (regardless of the fact he ended up being the best free agent QB available last year)... I won't impugn your motives for making such a careless comparison, or at minimum - not caring that your comparison is unfair to Moore. I do however wonder if someone else had made a similar comment about a player you did have a positive evaluation on... whether you might not have "birthed" a "novel" 5 times the size of the one I'm accused of creating - in response. hehe

The mere fact that there was an OBVIOUS discrepancy between the language coming out of Joe Philbin about Matt Flynn versus the language coming out from Jeff Ireland about Matt Flynn is pretty strong evidence that there was some disconnect there. And no, Steve Ross did not contradict that idea in easily referenced quotes. All Steve Ross did was suggest that Joe Philbin did not necessarily evaluate him as a franchise quarterback, which would have been unreasonable anyway based on two starts.

Wait.... "Don't you think if my coach wanted Matt Flynn, he would be on the team?" doesn't contradict the idea Joe Philbin wanted Matt Flynn!?!??!?! Really???? Come on man... lol Did Ross even say franchise??? lol

Beyond that, the discrepancy you mention is razor thin... unnoticeable even.... unless someone has a theory, and is looking specifically to justify that theory IMO. Even in that context... thin thin thin. AND I thought you were supposed to evaluate the evidence and then formulate a theory... not the other way around. :)

So posting theories based on evidence is not the same to me as pretending that Dawn Aponte answers to nobody and has total autonomy over getting a guy like Ryan Tannehill signed and in camp.

Evidence!??!??! HAH!!! You step over the MOUNTAIN sized clue of Steve Ross stating if his coach wanted Matt Flynn, Matt Flynn would be on the team... to sift with a magnifying glass and a brand new copy of "Mind Reading for Dummies" for "evidence" Steve Ross's coach DID want Flynn... and (personal?) villain Jeff Ireland "sabotaged" the coach? lol

Not only that.... but simply repeating multiple mainstream media accounts stating "Dawn Aponte, the Dolphins "cap guru" is insisting on offset language in Tannehills contract".... isn't evidence, it's pretending???? You and I have a major league difference on the definition of evidence. lol BTW - I never saw anyone state that Dawn Aponte had total autonomy in signing Tannehill. Not saying someone didn't.. but it certainly wasn't me, and I've yet to read a post stating that.

But I appreciate the question which was so obviously targeted at trying to "get" me in some way, lol. Just try harder next time.

I'm not out to get you. In fact, as I've stated earlier... I enjoy your posts and opinions, and have done so for years. I seek them out for my own enjoyment. If you had responded to my inquiry, the way I believe any reasonable person would... with a "yes". I'd have replied with two words... "Thank You"... and never said another thing about it. To my mind... the point would have been made. The point being rank hypocrisy is not the exclusive sovereign province of one certain side or the other in an argument. Attempting to portray you in a negative light to others never even occurred to me. I just wanted you to know I knew... and me to know you knew I knew. lol

I'll also overlook the glaring opportunity to comment on your hat size... in regards to fitting what seems to be a big ego (trying to "get" me in some way, lol. Just try harder next time). :) My own comments regarding enjoying your opinions and posts (as well as many others who've expressed the same, I'm sure)... somewhat justify it - although it's a bit out of place in this discussion IMO.

Anyway, thanks for the reply... although it's a bit of disappointment. I enjoyed it.

 

[Valandui]

You may not take responsibility... but that doesn't mean it isn't occurring. Why would tazthenomad find it necessary to state: "He doesn't seem like he is so talented that he shouldn't be trying to get the maximum out of practice for his sake and for the sake of his teammates practicing with him."? It can't be because of the story this thread is based on... because in the story Moore actually talks about his effort to improve practice performance. So where would he get the idea Moore thinks he's too good to have to practice? Someone comparing him to someone who DID think he was too good to practice maybe? lol

Once again.... I've never heard a single coach of Moore's ever question his effort in practice, which is EXACTLY what precipitated the entire Iverson rant. I can't find anything ever written about Moore that would cause someone to wonder whether he's a "diva" or question his practice EFFORT at all. Well.. other than someone calling him Allen Iverson-like. lol

On a related note, taking in the totality of Matt Moore's career... if one line in a training camp story out of a 5 year career makes many many many people you know think "Allen Iverson"... I have to think you know a lot of lazy and/or unthoughtful people. No offense meant, but 'unwarranted cheap shot' stands. Its what i thought when I read it... and your further defense of the comment isn't mitigating at all. <-- Not that you care, I'm sure. :)



Sorry.... I think I more than clearly delineated the difference between the two statements.... or actually the one line in a beat reporters training camp story vs. a 20 minute rant PRECIPITATED by being called out for a lack of effort in practice by his head coach. The fact posters are now questioning whether Moore thinks he's too talented to benefit from practice... WHEN HE ACTUALLY MENTIONS HIS EFFORTS TO IMPROVE FROM YEAR TO YEAR IN THE SAME STORY... are directly attributable to your comment (and others - if your to be believed, I haven't seen anyone else making the comment but you).

I disagree heartily that Iverson and Moore were expressing the same thought.... and disagree heartily with the comparison even being made. The "mom, everybody did it" factor... doesn't impress me either. As implied earlier, for someone who should know something about both their careers.. the comparison strikes me as lazy and unthoughtful, or in short - an unwarranted cheap shot.

Although I know you've never liked the Moore signing (regardless of the fact he ended up being the best free agent QB available last year)... I won't impugn your motives for making such a careless comparison, or at minimum - not caring that your comparison is unfair to Moore. I do however wonder if someone else had made a similar comment about a player you did have a positive evaluation on... whether you might not have "birthed" a "novel" 5 times the size of the one I'm accused of creating - in response. hehe



Wait.... "Don't you think if my coach wanted Matt Flynn, he would be on the team?" doesn't contradict the idea Joe Philbin wanted Matt Flynn!?!??!?! Really???? Come on man... lol Did Ross even say franchise??? lol

Beyond that, the discrepancy you mention is razor thin... unnoticeable even.... unless someone has a theory, and is looking specifically to justify that theory IMO. Even in that context... thin thin thin. AND I thought you were supposed to evaluate the evidence and then formulate a theory... not the other way around. :)



Evidence!??!??! HAH!!! You step over the MOUNTAIN sized clue of Steve Ross stating if his coach wanted Matt Flynn, Matt Flynn would be on the team... to sift with a magnifying glass and a brand new copy of "Mind Reading for Dummies" for "evidence" Steve Ross's coach DID want Flynn... and (personal?) villain Jeff Ireland "sabotaged" the coach? lol

Not only that.... but simply repeating multiple mainstream media accounts stating "Dawn Aponte, the Dolphins "cap guru" is insisting on offset language in Tannehills contract".... isn't evidence, it's pretending???? You and I have a major league difference on the definition of evidence. lol BTW - I never saw anyone state that Dawn Aponte had total autonomy in signing Tannehill. Not saying someone didn't.. but it certainly wasn't me, and I've yet to read a post stating that.



I'm not out to get you. In fact, as I've stated earlier... I enjoy your posts and opinions, and have done so for years. I seek them out for my own enjoyment. If you had responded to my inquiry, the way I believe any reasonable person would... with a "yes". I'd have replied with two words... "Thank You"... and never said another thing about it. To my mind... the point would have been made. The point being rank hypocrisy is not the exclusive sovereign province of one certain side or the other in an argument. Attempting to portray you in a negative light to others never even occurred to me. I just wanted you to know I knew... and me to know you knew I knew. lol

I'll also overlook the glaring opportunity to comment on your hat size... in regards to fitting what seems to be a big ego (trying to "get" me in some way, lol. Just try harder next time). :) My own comments regarding enjoying your opinions and posts (as well as many others who've expressed the same, I'm sure)... somewhat justify it - although it's a bit out of place in this discussion IMO.

Anyway, thanks for the reply... although it's a bit of disappointment. I enjoyed it.

To be fair, if he isn't better in practice he probably won't win the starting job. Even if he thinks practice doesn't matter, if his job depends on it he'll try to get better.

 

[Vertical Limit]

Some players aren't good practice players. Hell people said last year Matt Flynn looks better in practice than Aaron Rodgers

 

[wockenbauss]

To be fair, if he isn't better in practice he probably won't win the starting job. Even if he thinks practice doesn't matter, if his job depends on it he'll try to get better.

Its certainly a bigger problem with a new coaching staff, who has no experience with Moore.... some of the previous staff had time with Moore in Dallas before he was poached by Carolina. But yes.... might be hard for Moore to prove in two preseason games, that his game performance is better than his practice performance - for a new coaching staff. Philbin's been quoted repeatedly, that practice is the most important determining factor in when he judges a player is ready to play. So definitely sounds like an uphill battle for Moore - assuming Garrard is healthy, continues good practice performances, and doesn't give the impression he's the opposite (better in practice, than games) in preseason. lol

The thing that bugs me though... is this isn't an unheard of issue. It's actually pretty common... there's even a term to describe it: "gamer". Moore is far from the only player to be described that way. And for someone to turn around and basically say... we'll he's Allen Iverson-like because of it, I find ridiculous and unfair. That's probably why I wrote a "novel" about it, huh? lol

 

[Valandui]

Its certainly a bigger problem with a new coaching staff, who has no experience with Moore.... some of the previous staff had time with Moore in Dallas before he was poached by Carolina. But yes.... might be hard for Moore to prove in two preseason games, that his game performance is better than his practice performance - for a new coaching staff. Philbin's been quoted repeatedly, that practice is the most important determining factor in when he judges a player is ready to play. So definitely sounds like an uphill battle for Moore - assuming Garrard is healthy, continues good practice performances, and doesn't give the impression he's the opposite (better in practice, than games) in preseason. lol

The thing that bugs me though... is this isn't an unheard of issue. It's actually pretty common... there's even a term to describe it: "gamer". Moore is far from the only player to be described that way. And for someone to turn around and basically say... we'll he's Allen Iverson-like because of it, I find ridiculous and unfair. That's probably why I wrote a "novel" about it, huh? lol

I'm not saying he does have that attitude. It's just possible for that to be the case as to why he's trying to improve his practice preformance.