McMichael may face a 4 game suspension.

[Nublar7]

There's something wrong in that article....It says that he would get 4 games for a third violation

I'm looking for the actual program guidelines but i came across this blurb about Onterrio Smith that backs me.....

hmm, I was led to believe that 3 violations result in a 4 game suspension and a 4th is a year. Look at this:

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/11692094.htm

As for the July return, Williams technically can't return to the team until then or he would face a one-year suspension under the NFL's substance-abuse policy. Williams had tested positive for marijuana use three times. His retirement in July before training camp was considered a fourth violation of the policy and would have resulted in a one-year suspension.

The fourth violation and suspension can only be avoided if Williams sits out a full year. Williams faces a four-week fine and four-week suspension for his second and third positive tests. An NFL source indicated the league likely will give Williams the full penalty for those violations.

 

[inFINSible]

The confusion as I understand it with the program is the nature of that first offense. I think if you come into the league clean, you are on this track:

1st offense: enrollment in the program
2nd offense: 4 game fine
3rd offense: 4 game suspension
4th offense: 1 year suspension

If you come in under the program, it's:

1st offense: 4 game fine
2nd offense: 4 game suspension
3rd offense: 1 year suspension

That has been my understanding of it.

So, if that's the case, he's got one more screw up before we know anything about it.

That's good....sorta.

 

[Merman]

Why don't you guys just read the rules rather than guess???

http://www.nflpa.org/members/main.asp?subPage=Drug+Policy

 

[PHINATIC13]

Infins you said that the results of the first test were not disclosed, but do you know if it's testing for alcohol or drugs? or does it matter.

 

[Jimmy James]

Why don't you guys just read the rules rather than guess???

http://www.nflpa.org/members/main.asp?subPage=Drug+Policy

What fun is that? I do enough staring at regulations at my job.

 

[Merman]

What fun is that? I do enough staring at regulations at my job.

That's probably exactly what you do, stare. Hard to believe you read and follow regulations on the job, if so this stuff would come very easy to you and you would just do it. It's not like this is the frist time I've given the link to the CBA or Drug Policy.

 

[Jimmy James]

You really have no idea, man. Trust me.

 

[Merman]

You really have no idea, man. Trust me.

Then show us some of that skill find the pertinent sections and quote them. You don't even have to interpret the rules they are so simple.

 

[Jimmy James]

Then show us some of that skill find the pertinent sections and quote them. You don't even have to interpret the rules they are so simple.

I think I'll decline, but you're welcome to go right ahead.

 

[Merman]

E. Intervention Stages
2. StageTwo
b. Discipline

(1)Discipline for First Failure to Comply in Stage Two: A player who has a Positive Test or who in the judgment of the Medical Director fails to comply with his Treatment Plan during Stage Two will be subject to:

(a) A fine of four-seventeenths (4/17) of the amount in Paragraph 5 of the NFL Player Contract if the player has successfully completed Stage One; and

(b) A suspension for the period of time to cover four consecutive regular season and post-season (including Pro Bowl, if selected) games without pay if he did not successfully complete Stage One.

(2)Discipline for Second Failure to Comply in Stage Two: A player who has two Positive Tests in Stage Two; or fails twice, as determined by the Medical Director, to comply with his Treatment Plan in Stage Two; or has a Positive Test and fails to comply with his Treatment Plan, as determined by the Medical Director, will incur:

(a) A suspension for the period of time to cover four consecutive regular and post season games (including the Pro Bowl, if selected) without pay if the player was fined pursuant to Section E.2.b.(1)(a) above; and

(b) A suspension for the period of time to cover six consecutive regular and post season games (including the Pro Bowl, if selected) without pay if the player was suspended pursuant to Section E.2.b.(1)(b) above.

c. Duration: A player will remain in Stage Two for twenty-four months or two full seasons, whichever is shorter, beginning from the later of either the date of entry into Stage Two; or the date upon which a player has a Positive Test or otherwise fails to comply with the Treatment Plan after entering Stage Two. Notwithstanding the foregoing, without any notice a player will be automatically and immediately advanced to Stage Three if while in Stage Two he has any of the following:

(1) two Positive Tests; or

(2) two instances in which he fails to comply with his Treatment Plan; or

(3) one Positive Test and one instance of a failure to comply with his Treatment Plan while in Stage Two.

3. Stage Three

b. Discipline.

(1) Discipline for Failure to Comply in Stage Three: A player who has a Positive Test in Stage Three or fails to comply with his Treatment Plan, as determined by the Medical Director will be banished from the NFL for a minimum period of one calendar year.

(2)Banishment: A player banished from the NFL pursuant to subsection (1) above will be required to adhere to his Treatment Plan and the provisions of this Intervention Program during his banishment. During a player's period of banishment, his contract with an NFL club shall be tolled.

 

[Merman]

Conduct Policy

Persons Convicted of Criminal Activity

Any Covered Person convicted of or admitting to a criminal violation (including a plea to a lesser included offense; a plea of nob contendere or no contest; or the acceptance of a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision, or similar arrangement) will be subject to discipline as determined by the Commissioner. Such discipline may include a fine, suspension without pay and/or banishment from the League. Any Covered Person convicted of or admitting to a second criminal violation will be suspended without pay or banished for a period of time to be determined by the Commissioner.

 

[CitizenSnips]

.....fascinating.

 

[byroan]

a second criminal violation will be suspended without pay or banished for a period of time to be determined by the Commissioner.

Wouldn't this be his first? The charges were dropped (if there were any) in the first situation. So he wasn't convicted nor did he admit to anything.

 

[PHINATIC13]

Thanks Merman,having read that what do you think the commish will determine Randy's punishment to be? fine, suspension or both?

 

[R_t_Kraken]

:cry: