all you tall and weak guys make me laugh-either you can lift the weight or you can't! i am short and extremely strong...and i have tall friends who can bench a lot and don't belly ache and make excuses, they just lift and shutup/anyway football is about being a football player/not a lifter:roflmao: :evil: who cares how much Zach or Junior can bench! can they pursue the play and can they tackle? can they play thru pain? can they lead? i'm sure junior or zach doesn't make excuses about thier anatomy when they can't do something. stop whining and start benching. phin fans need to toughen up!