pigskinguy
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At this point I don't mind trading Ogun, but not for Samuels under-acheiving, over-paid a$$.
Exactly. The guy obviously knows nothing of the Dolphins. He is also asking for the Dolphins 2nd rounder next year(which they don't have) or Seth McKinney. While Smith didn't have a Pro Bowl year, he played well(especially for a rookie at the most important and demanding position on the line). I don't think that anyone is saying that we have one of the top LT's in the league(yet:cooldude: ), but they are not desperate by any means.dolfan87 said:Since when are we desperate for a LT?
Bad idea. We don't need another huge contract, with a problem of getting him re-signed.
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Why not? I post at other team's sites. So do many others.audiorage said:why are there redskin fans posting on this site?
Chrisbob said:First off, hello again Phin fans, how's it going?
Second, thought you may like to look at this article, please note it will only be able to be viewed this weekend as it's an insider access article and they are running a free weekend:
http://redskins.theinsiders.com/2/271952.html
Anyway, I looked through another thread regarding this deal and whilst it is only a rumour for now it is a very possible deal. The Ogunlaye situation isn't good for your team as he is threatening to sit and leave next year as a FA. The Samuels situation is a pain for the 'Skins because he has had a slump in form the past two years and he is a cap burden. The article above explains the cap implications of a Samuels trade from a Redskins point of view.
As it is, any Dolphins fan who expects the 'Skins to give up more than a straight swap will be dissappointed. No way the 'Skins give up any more than a straight swap. Fact is, this is similiar than the Portis/Bailey trade, the 'Skins had to give up more ( a 2nd rd pick ) because Denver were in a situation where they did not have to deal straight away, which is what the situation is now for the 'Skins, whereas the Dolphins have to deal AO as a new deal appears far away and you risk losing him for nothing next year if no deal is done.
As it is, it would appear the 'Skins have a slightly better stance to ask for more than a straight swap, maybe a 3rd round draft pick as well? Of course, some of you are going to get mad at that (no offense is meant) but I would say that is how most 'Skins fans would see it.
Some of their opinions are here:
http://mb9.theinsiders.com/fcpndhardcorefrm1.showMessage?topicID=34461.topic
Not long 'til the season guys, enjoy!
Saint Greg said:Are you the Dolphins GM? I wouldn't be surprised if you are...That sounds like the opinion of someone who would mortgage the future of a franchise by trading valuable draft picks for higher priced veterans. If you think draft picks are like lottery tickets, you need to hire a new scouting dept because you obviously don't have very much confidence in them.
:yeahthat:IMO I want either Ramsey, a 1st, or Samuels and a 3rd. Anything other than that and there's no deal.
CrunchTime said:In reply to the moderator comments ;(Sorry still have not learnt how to incorporate other peoples comments)
bakedmatt said:This is coming from a fan of the team that traded for Derrick Rodgers.
ScottLawrence said:I would definilty take that in a heart beat if I were Miami...... Samuels is one of the best Tackles in the league and your offensive line is not looking good.
While with Ogunleye you really have no idea how good he really is being opposite Jason Taylor.