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Wagon Circler said:
We can pretend it was legal if you want, but it wasn't. Just like the tuck rule is garbage, and the botched coin toss, and the music city forward lateral. It's a manufactured "great play".

Lets get back to the scrimmage, there's no need for this to get hijacked.

I didn't start it. I responded to "62-7."

Hey, at least I can admit we got OUR A$$ES KICKED. Hell, the sprinkler system even came up from the ground DURING the game.

Why can't you admit that the Music City Miracle was a great play and legal? It was. Only bills fans say it wasn't.
 
DolphinDevil28 said:
I didn't start it. I responded to "62-7."

Hey, at least I can admit we got OUR A$$ES KICKED. Hell, the sprinkler system even came up from the ground DURING the game.

Why can't you admit that the Music City Miracle was a great play and legal? It was. Only bills fans say it wasn't.
Whatever you say, we aren't going to agree on it.

What line of scrimmage are you referring to by the way?
 
Wagon Circler said:
Whatever you say, we aren't going to agree on it.

What line of scrimmage are you referring to by the way?

You know, that computerized little line they put on the TV when they were dissecting the play for the million times that they dissected it.

They put a line straight from Wycheck's hand directly perpandicular to the sideline.

The ball, when it got to Dyson, was about a half-inch to an inch behind the computerized line.

It was perfectly legal.
 
DolphinDevil28 said:
You know, that computerized little line they put on the TV when they were dissecting the play for the million times that they dissected it.

They put a line straight from Wycheck's hand directly parallel to the sideline.

The ball, when it got to Dyson, was about a half-inch to an inch behind the computerized line.

It was perfectly legal.
I know about the line you are talking about, I was just being technical.

Back to the scrimmage.
 
I think Losman looked like he should, inexperienced but with some talent. He seemed to make the right reads on the part of the game I was watching. The only thing that bothered me about him was he looked Tiny! Was he not wearing full pads or something? I swear I had a flashback of Doug Flutie at first glance? :confused:
 
SikOne said:
I think Losman looked like he should, inexperienced but with some talent. He seemed to make the right reads on the part of the game I was watching. The only thing that bothered me about him was he looked Tiny! Was he not wearing full pads or something? I swear I had a flashback of Doug Flutie at first glance? :confused:
Losman is much bigger than Flutie.
 
I'm not surprised some posters here saw something different because a rival fan for the most part will look at our team from a cynical point of view. We view it in comparission to what we had last year and it's definitely looking better.

See the speed of the O now. JP can roll right or roll left or up the middle. W/ Drew you knew where he was all the time. In the pocket and that's it. We didn't even pound the ball w/ our running game. I'm pretty sure we will and although JP didn't look like a probowler he didn't look like a lost rookie either.
 
Wagon Circler said:
I agree, but nothing that can't be fixed with a little tape watching and practice. Nothing to worry about.

The bills had like 15 "sacks" on the GB qb's.
One way to fix the red zone defense is to keep the other team out of the red zone, which the Bills did throughout the scrimmage, except of course when they did the drills which actually started in the red zone...granted it is only a scrimmage, but it looks like you have yourself a damn good defense...as far as Losman goes, I just didn't see him look as terrible as some here did, but I was switching channels...the real test for both Losman and the defense comes next week against the Colts
 
Roman529 said:
There is not much else to do in Green Bay except tip cows and drink beer.:lol:


I thought you were referring to Buffalo.Oh Well there is always bowling.:goof:
 
DolphinDevil28 said:
Bills D looked good.

But JP looked pedestrian. I watched the whole thing, and to say he "had a very good scrimmage" is a little biased.
It was a good scrimmage especially for JP in the sense that he's getting experrience and most of all, no injuries for any team. It was a risk that panned out. It's gotten us closer to preparing ourselves for our first game. That's how we view it. You view it from a finfans perspective.


Biased? Na, we looked at it objectively. Were you expecting a probowler? He looked way better than Feeley did. The important thing to us is that he didn't look like a rookie or a deer staring at a headlight. JP didn't even look that much different compared to Farve.

How did you like our back-ups? Not too shabby. Like I said , compared to what we had last year , our future is looking bright. :D.
 
Bills4Life said:
Actually, when you scrimmage another team, Its much harder on the offense than the defense.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but on what do you base that? I've watched more than a few scrimmages, which means very little. but defenses seem to be easily caught and not used to offensive tendencies. An O can run through there offense which they have been practicing.
 
Losman looked exactly what I thought he'd look like. He's inexperienced, but you definately see the talent in him. There are some things he has to work on that I noticed. When he's scrambling (and he will do a lot of that), he needs to continue scanning the field, instead of just making up his mind and run. All his passes were short to intermediate which shows he is still uncomfortable with the speed of the game. He needs to minimize his mistakes. One of his passes would've been in easy pick 6, which would've negated the TD that McGahee scored 3 or 4 plays later. After reading threads on Buffalorange about Losman, you would've thought he was going to look much better than he did. He didn't look too bad after one week of training camp. But if he doesn't improve on the three factors I mentioned earlier, your offense will be very vanilla and easy to gameplan against. Only time will tell.
 
F150&Dolfan said:
I agree that scrimmages and preseason games are a useless measure on how teams will look when it's for real but it's nice to see the starters play well. I mean, a team like New England, whatever they do in preseason means nothing at all (although if they look bad it will be all over finheaven and buffalorange for sure) but for us and some younger players on the Bills having solid preseason games is encouraging but nothing more. I would never base any predictions off of it.

Also not to be a football geek but Spurrier won his first game as a head coach. You state he started losing right from week 1 which is indeed wrong. I know becuase I actually started Shane Matthews in my fantasy leauge and he threw 2 or 3 TD's in a WINNING effort.

You know, I had forgotten about that :smackhead. You are absolutely right. :woot:

Scrimmages are good for evaluating individual matchups, which is what coaches want anyway.

Now to get out of here before I post again. :escape:
 
FinaticalOne said:
Losman looked exactly what I thought he'd look like. He's inexperienced, but you definately see the talent in him. There are some things he has to work on that I noticed. When he's scrambling (and he will do a lot of that), he needs to continue scanning the field, instead of just making up his mind and run. All his passes were short to intermediate which shows he is still uncomfortable with the speed of the game. He needs to minimize his mistakes. One of his passes would've been in easy pick 6, which would've negated the TD that McGahee scored 3 or 4 plays later. After reading threads on Buffalorange about Losman, you would've thought he was going to look much better than he did. He didn't look too bad after one week of training camp. But if he doesn't improve on the three factors, I mentioned earlier, your offensed will be very vanilla and easy to gameplan against. Only time will tell.
Yup, there's alot to improve on but there's not denying that when he does, he will cause headaches for teams.

Our O vanilla w/ Mularkey? Maybe at the start of the season but once JP get's comfortable, teams are gonna be guessing. There was no guessing w/ Drew behind the line. We all knew he was staying in one place.

How much more do you think things will open up for JP when we run the ball more often than we did? We had to practice everything without any gameplanning.
 
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