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Merged: Reggie McNeal

I'm going to the Shrine game this weekend and Reggie is going ot be a QB in the game. I'll leave my feedback in this forum after the game this weekend. I plan to watch Pinegar and Drew Olsen as well. I'm also going to keep my eye out on a couple of CBs.

Here's the rosters: Shrine Game Rosters
 
Scouts Inc said:
Strengths: One of the elite dual-threat QB prospects in college football. Possesses explosive athleticism. Has great quickness in his drop and feet inside the pocket. Will feel the pocket collapsing around him and can get out of danger in a hurry. He has quick feet and exceptional speed. He is a huge threat to run. Buys a lot of second-chance passing opportunities. Is elusive and has very good vision and COD skills as a runner. Shows a second-gear in the open field. He is effective when throwing on the run. Seems to be at his best when creating after the initial play breaks down. He has outstanding arm strength. Can drive the ball downfield in the vertical passing game. He shows the ability to fit the ball into tight spots. Gets great zip on his deep out route. Shows the ability to throw across his body and on the run  to both sides. His accuracy has improved greatly. He has cut down on his mental lapses and is doing a much better job of protecting the football. He won't force many throws into coverage. Has an exceptional TD to INT ratio. Is a tough, competitive QB and the type of player that demands respect from his teammates. A hard worker on and off the field.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size. Is on the shorter side and has poor bulk. He takes a lot of hits as a runner. Needs to learn to slide more often and to better protect his body. He has had some durability issues in the past and he's an injury waiting to happen. He can be too impatient as a pocket passer. Takes off and runs too early at times. He doesn't always seem to see the entire field. Has had some trouble in the past protecting the football. Lacks ideal quickness in his release. His mechanics need to be more consistent as a passer. Doesn't show enough touch as a passer. Has some trouble in terms of leading his receivers and letting them run after the catch. He also struggles to change velocity at times. He has some trouble finding passing windows and will have some passes batted down. Still has room to improve in terms of reading coverages in his drops. Needs to make quicker reads and do a more consistent job of beating the blitz with his arm, rather than almost always with his legs.

Overall: McNeal played mostly a backup role as a freshman in 2002 before emerging as a fulltime starter as a sophomore. He started 11 of the 12 games he played in 2003, completing 113-of-221 passes for 1,782 yards with 8 touchdown and 7 interceptions. As a fulltime starter in his junior season in 2004, McNeal passed for 2,791 yards and 14 touchdowns on 200-of-344 passing, while rushing for 718 yards and eight touchdowns on 151 carries. McNeal is one of the most dangerous dual-threat quarterbacks in the nation. He lacks ideal size and he still has a lot of work to do in terms of his mechanics, recognition skills and consistency as a pocket passer. He also takes a lot of hits and needs to protect his body better. However, McNeal's ability to beat you with his legs and his arm makes him tremendously difficult to defend against. He may never emerge as a solid staring quarterback in the NFL, but McNeal could develop into a playmaking backup with the potential to also contribute as a situational wide receiver, return specialist and in other areas of special teams. Regardless, McNeal has a legitimate chance to come off the 2006 draft board late on Day 1.

They say he runs a 4.31 in the 40. I hate to say it but he sounds like a taller Mike Vick. Vick was a #1 overall pick, this guy is a late Day 1/early Day 2 possibility. Pretty good value in that if you ask me.
 
ChrisKo said:
I'm going to the Shrine game this weekend and Reggie is going ot be a QB in the game. I'll leave my feedback in this forum after the game this weekend. I plan to watch Pinegar and Drew Olsen as well. I'm also going to keep my eye out on a couple of CBs.

Here's the rosters: Shrine Game Rosters

Reggie has not looked very good so far in Shrine practices...and those are deemed more important by scouts than the Shrine game itself, where I wouldn't be surprised to see McNeal's legs bail him out considerably.
 
ckparrothead said:
Reggie has not looked very good so far in Shrine practices...and those are deemed more important by scouts than the Shrine game itself, where I wouldn't be surprised to see McNeal's legs bail him out considerably.

But unfortunately, my job doesn't allow me to make it to the stadiums to watch the practices. If only I was a paid scout, then again, I'm not sure I want a job that pays that little. :lol:
 
I saw him plenty in college. He looked best as a freshman, especially the signature game of stunning Oklahoma late in the year when the Sooners were thinking national title. McNeal kept arching perfect deep passes for clutch big gains and TDs every time Oklahoma threatened to take the lead.

He is a good but not great runner, not the type who will put several moves together and wow you with instincts and change of pace to elude defenders. Late in his career the development at QB stalled, if not regressed, when he was stuck in the shotgun and asked to run a zone read type offense like Vince Young at Texas. That's where you're reading the defensive front seven first, particularly the DE away from the direction of the run, and not reading the secondary, so it's hardly the ideal formation to breed NFL QBs. It actually wasn't identical to the Texas attack because A&M ran plenty of pure option to the corner out of the shotgun, with Reggie generally preferring to keep the ball rather than pitch.

I think Reggie deserves a shot at QB and I'll be interested to see how he performs this weekend.
 
my 2 cents

I read in the San Antonio paper he looked very good early in the week...???????

ckparrothead said:
Reggie has not looked very good so far in Shrine practices...and those are deemed more important by scouts than the Shrine game itself, where I wouldn't be surprised to see McNeal's legs bail him out considerably.
 
ckparrothead said:
Reggie has not looked very good so far in Shrine practices...and those are deemed more important by scouts than the Shrine game itself, where I wouldn't be surprised to see McNeal's legs bail him out considerably.
where did you get the information about the shrine practices. How have the other QBs like Gradkowski and Pinegar looked?
 
Awsi Dooger said:
I saw him plenty in college. He looked best as a freshman, especially the signature game of stunning Oklahoma late in the year when the Sooners were thinking national title. McNeal kept arching perfect deep passes for clutch big gains and TDs every time Oklahoma threatened to take the lead.

He is a good but not great runner, not the type who will put several moves together and wow you with instincts and change of pace to elude defenders. Late in his career the development at QB stalled, if not regressed, when he was stuck in the shotgun and asked to run a zone read type offense like Vince Young at Texas. That's where you're reading the defensive front seven first, particularly the DE away from the direction of the run, and not reading the secondary, so it's hardly the ideal formation to breed NFL QBs. It actually wasn't identical to the Texas attack because A&M ran plenty of pure option to the corner out of the shotgun, with Reggie generally preferring to keep the ball rather than pitch.

I think Reggie deserves a shot at QB and I'll be interested to see how he performs this weekend.
I agree on all counts.

I especially agree that a zone read offense is one of the worst offenses for a college qb to play in cause it really does nothing that you can translate to the pro's. Thats one of the reasons many players who come from zone read offenses have trouble reading defenses; cause theyre looking at 1 player or parts of the D instead of at the entire defense presented to them.

Reggie's the type of player you take a day 2 flier on in rd 4 or 5 and if it pans out, great, if it doesnt than you really havent invested that much into him.
 
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