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Merged: Things are heating up....smells like trade cooking./Skins trade?

And here's another item...if you research Larry Johnson....he would be a perfect fit in a one back offense....isn't that what the Vikes ran most with Lienhan?
 
fishypete said:
All I'm doing is repeating what was said on the show...like I wrote...the guy was right about the Surtain trade...by at least 5 hours...and after Peterson said the deal wasn't going to happen...yesterday. Take it for what it is...but if the trade comes to pass with Washington....well you know the rest.
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It was reported on ESPN yesterday Peterson was still considering the trade.

I'm going to tell you what I think has happened: this "connected fan" knows a few things, like Peterson had to get a CB. That's why he was probably considering sending that 2nd and the 1st to the Redskins to move up for his guy (probably Rogers). He knows that would be bad value compared to just trading for Surtain. He knows that Miami needs a RB somehow. Based on all of that, he speculated and made it sound really good (like everybody speculating on sports radio does).
 
BLITZKRIEG said:
I don't want to trade down beyond #7.....

It's too risky to go down that far, and then miss out on an immediate impact player. Trading with Tampa or Minnesota is our best option. Screw the Skinz, they have nothing we want / need in terms of picks or players IMO....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
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WRONG....there are plenty of impact players after the #9 spot. This draft is so deep we could do well to have no first rounders and a half a dozen 2nd rounders. I know it sounds alittle extreme but if you've done your homework on this class of prospects you'd know we could do some real damage in that kind of senario.:cooldude:
 
Phinman said:
Redskins | Could Package Deal to Move Up to No. 2 Pick - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:06:32 -0700

Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins could offer their two first-round draft choices (No. 9 and No. 25 overall) along with WR Rod Gardner to the Miami Dolphins for the No. 2 overall draft choice.

****I would love this deal!

We would have tons of options, with these picks and the newly acquired pick from KC. Rod Gardner would be a good 3rd WR with Chambers and Booker. Bye Gilmore!
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gilmore is a keeper IMO - someone else would have to go.
 
Jimmy James said:
It was reported on ESPN yesterday Peterson was still considering the trade.

I'm going to tell you what I think has happened: this "connected fan" knows a few things, like Peterson had to get a CB. That's why he was probably considering sending that 2nd and the 1st to the Redskins to move up for his guy (probably Rogers). He knows that would be bad value compared to just trading for Surtain. He knows that Miami needs a RB somehow. Based on all of that, he speculated and made it sound really good (like everybody speculating on sports radio does).
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Notice the time...10:38 am.....nothing was posted that even came close that the Chiefs changed their mind...not until appx 3:00 in the morning...did I even hear that the trade was even alive....not until that person came on the radio and flat said the deal is done. Not ESPN...not any Miami papers...no one knew before he said it. Like I said...if Washington trades with the Dolphins...are you going to say...gee even I knew that would happen. Did you ever think that maybe someone knows something...you don't? Maybe you don't like the thought that Saban could or would trade with Washington...or trade with K.C. or acquire Larry Johnson...well...get a life....thats the way it could very well happen...if not...so what.

Chiefs | Time Running Out for Surtain Deal
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:38:22 -0700
Updating an ongoing story, Jason Cole and Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, report <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/21/nfl">Kansas City Chiefs president Carl Peterson announced that time is running out to complete a deal with the Miami Dolphins for CB Patrick Surtain. ''We're running out of time to get it done for this particular draft,'' Peterson said. "It would necessitate coming to an agreement, getting him here to pass a physical, getting a contract signed and having it approved by the league and all that. It's not something that can be done on draft day. If it doesn't happen, we're certainly going to go ahead and draft. Then the options for the next draft are available.'' As reported, the Dolphins are seeking at least a second-round draft choice for Surtain, a price the Chiefs have refused to pay thus far.
 
BREAKING NEWS:

The #9 and #25 picks are not good value for our #2 pick...

We can do better guys, just be a little patient..


ETA: Gardner SHUCKS!
 
fishypete said:
I hate to repeat myself...but once more...early this morning I was listening to Sporting news radio on XM...a connected fan from K.C. came on and said the deal for Surtain is done...he was correct...by hours before it was released...he also said that the Dolphins will trade out of the 2nd pick to Washington...I really don't believe which team does trade with the Dolphinsmakes much difference ...the picks are appx the same, for Washington's 9th and 25th picks...and then K.C. will trade with Miami trading their 15th pick and Larry Johnson for the 9th pick...so they can acquire Derrick Johnson. The Chiefs need cap space and Johnson is expendable...this way the Dolphins get their running back plus the 15th and 25th picks.
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I'm actually in favor of this. I think LJ would do well in our system and we'd end up with, i think, four first day picks including our runningback. Works for me.
 
fishypete said:
Redskins | Could Package Deal to Move Up to No. 2 Pick
Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:06:32 -0700

Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins could offer their two first-round draft choices (No. 9 and No. 25 overall) along with WR Rod Gardner to the Miami Dolphins for the No. 2 overall draft choice.


Dolphins | Eager to Trade Down
Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:06:24 -0700

Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports league sources have said the Miami Dolphins are eager to deal the No. 2 overall pick in the first round of the 2005 NFL Draft and will continue discussions with several teams as the start of the draft Saturday, April 23, approaches.


Buccaneers | To Move Up for Brown?
Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:45:25 -0700

Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports two league sources have indicated the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are looking to trade up in the NFL draft to select Auburn RB Ronnie Brown.


Cowboys | Not Ruling Out Trade Up
Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:40:28 -0700

Todd Archer, of the Dallas Morning News, reports Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones would not dismiss the idea of trading up with either of their first-round draft choices (No. 11 and No. 20 overall) if they are targeting a specific player and the price is right. "We've gone through some scenarios where we might move up a little bit with that 20th pick," Jones said, "and that first [11th] pick. If a premium is being paid for people to come up, I wouldn't be interested in moving up. If there's good value if people are trying to move down, and we had the opportunity to get a player, we might move that up."
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All good news. I wont sleep a wink tonight.
 
fishypete said:
Ronnie couldn't break thru to start...and ronnie never ran for 2000 yds in a season. I wouldn't discount Penn State...they have a longer and far better history than most SEC schools.
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Those 2000 yards mostly came against the weak Big 10 teams and when Johnson did play against the good Big 10 teams (Ohio St., Michigan) he got jacked and didn't do much. He would have never gotten anywhere near 2000 yards in the SEC. Also before his senior year he was a non factor pretty much for several years on Penn St. teams that for the most part were not that good.
 
fishypete said:
Maybe you don't like the thought that Saban could or would trade with Washington...or trade with K.C. or acquire Larry Johnson...well...get a life....thats the way it could very well happen...if not...so what.
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I have no problem with the idea we would trade with KC or the Redskins. I think trading for Larry would be kind of stupid if certain players are still available, but I can see the logic behind it if they're not there. What I don't see is how this works for the CHIEFS.

As to your snarky little "get a life" comment, I'm not the one listening to Sporting News Radio and defending what some caller says (you are NOT just reporting this -- you have said you believe it).
 
Blackshade said:
Those 2000 yards mostly came against the weak Big 10 teams and when Johnson did play against the good Big 10 teams (Ohio St., Michigan) he got jacked and didn't do much. He would have never gotten anywhere near 2000 yards in the SEC. Also before his senior year he was a non factor pretty much for several years on Penn St. teams that for the most part were not that good.
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So he would have gotten 1200 yds in the SEC. He was the first running back in Big ten history to break 2000 yds....thats not enough? He avg 167.9 yds per game...he led the nation in rushing...that includes for those that don't know..the SEC. On 6 carries he had 78 yds against Michigan...the only school that really gave him a hard time was Ohio State. Name me one running back that didn't have a school he had a hard time with...Seems to me Benson couldn't run Against Oklahoma...something about always losing to them.
 
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