Mess in Miami - BEST ARTICLE to date, and BEST Analysis Video to date (IMHO)

[NCFINFAN13]

I would think you would earn your place by playing better than others on the field but I know thats silly pansey talk

C'mon D you read better than that.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

This is no private domain. They still are employees and there still are rules, basic fundamental rules. Im not in the world of electricians but I venture to guess that they even have rules concerning EO and sexual harrassment

And electricians don't get trained to assault each other on a weekly basis either. Just a little bit different stress level and Alpha factor, but who cares right?

 

[dlockz]

And electricians don't get trained to assault each other on a weekly basis either. Just a little bit different stress level and Alpha factor, but who cares right?

in reality who cares. Im in the army do u really think anyone cares that our stress level is way above the norm, they care that we conduct ourself in a so called profssional manner

 

[dolphans1]

Well this Airline doesn't care - check their ad out.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...nspiration-from-dolphins-bullying-controversy

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

And electricians don't get trained to assault each other on a weekly basis either. Just a little bit different stress level and Alpha factor, but who cares right?

The saltiest people on a work site, are the concrete guys. Those dudes while doing back breaking work, spend their days in the elements. Those cats are a breed unlike any other at a work site. Electricians and all that wire....is a Postal worker waiting to break IMO. Miles and miles of wire, and having to get it all right.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

in reality who cares. Im in the army do u really think anyone cares that our stress level is way above the norm, they care that we conduct ourself in a so called profssional manner

I live next to Ft. Riley, and alot of my neighbors are either retired or active duty personnel.

Go out to Aggieville on a Friday or Saturday night, and listen those riff raff. I have personally seen, fights break out between active duty soldiers. I have seen them fight local civilians, leading to serious injury. But one of the funniest and probably worst things I've seen, was a man who was drunk. Harrassing patrons and fellow soldiers, pick a fight and get knocked out. They dragged his ass out to the curb and left him there. No cops called. No ambulance. Nothing.

We left a few hours later, and the guy was still there sleeping. I was told by the main bartender a few nights later, that the MPs came and hauled him off after closing time.

 

[Finland]

Actually, I don't think you know what that word means. Literally.

Integrity is acting in accordance with your morals, beliefs and values in a
consistent manner.

He is just saying a good test for that consistency is looking at how one acts when they think no one is looking type of thing. It's kind of true.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

in reality who cares. Im in the army do u really think anyone cares that our stress level is way above the norm, they care that we conduct ourself in a so called profssional manner

I care! If you and your team members want to blow off steam how ever you want in private ... as long as everyone is cool with it, then damn it ... do it! My guys and I had blow outs that would make these wussy word play texts look like nursery school. Out side of that, in the real world, we were the epitome of professionals.

 

[raving]

What does Belcher's suicide/homocide have to do with it?
He was a fourth year player.

When you look at people going "postal" there are ALWAYS tons of warning signs.

Now we are ALL lucky because Martin went "postal" this way....it is a version of homicide/suicide...And the Belcher thing tells you a lot...
1. You can get a gun into an NFL facility (that's a REAL BIG DEAL).
2. The NFL got caught with its pants down - on both the Belcher and the Martin fiascos...
3. NFL personnel have not been trained to see or understand the warning signs nor how to deal with them when they arise (Jeff Ireland's punch him in the face comment).
4. We ALL got lucky that Belcher was just a suicide (tragic in and of itself) and not a work place homicide/suicide.
5. The Belcher tragedy did not do enough to wake the NFL up to create a sequence of work place protections as we now see blowing up in the NFL's face which they are once again passing the buck - to the Dolphin's organization.
6. Their is now a whole behavioral science piece (has been since the 1980's) about how to deal with warning signs and potential violence at the work place.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

What does Belcher's suicide/homocide have to do with it?
He was a fourth year player.

When you look at people going "postal" there are ALWAYS tons of warning signs.

Now we are ALL lucky because Martin went "postal" this way....it is a version of homicide/suicide...And the Belcher thing tells you a lot...
1. You can get a gun into an NFL facility (that's a REAL BIG DEAL).
2. The NFL got caught with its pants down - on both the Belcher and the Martin fiascos...
3. NFL personnel have not been trained to see or understand the warning signs nor how to deal with them when they arise (Jeff Ireland's punch him in the face comment).
4. We ALL got lucky that Belcher was just a suicide (tragic in and of itself) and not a work place homicide/suicide.
5. The Belcher tragedy did not do enough to wake the NFL up to create a sequence of work place protections as we now see blowing up in the NFL's face which they are once again passing the buck - to the Dolphin's organization.
6. Their is now a whole behavioral science piece (has been since the 1980's) about how to deal with warning signs and potential violence at the work place.

I really don't know how to attack this. Because its something I would see on Dr. Drew.

Belcher was dealing with a woman. I can make the parallels between Martin and a woman, but I won't. But I will stop. Your post belongs in the AMA journal, not here.

 

[gofins60]

First of all, I'm against all forms of hazing; I think it's immature and has nothing to do with earning respect. On the other hand, harmless practical jokes are fine. Secondly, one thing is certain; every workplace is different, and no one set of rules will fit every workplace no matter how much the PC Police want that to happen. Example: On camera, in front of millions of viewers, Chad Johnson (during his playing days) can slap another guy on the butt and say "good play". But, when he did it in a courtroom, it was a big no-no. It was the same action in two different settings, yet one was acceptable and one wasn't... proof that every workplace has different standards of conduct.

The PC Police feel that they are the only ones who should be allowed to set the standards of conduct; they know best. The problem is that everyone is different, whether it's by age, race, gender, financial status (upper class, middle class, or poverty), and even how they were raised (this runs the gamut from "sainthood" to "thugs in the hood"), and they all have different ideas of what is and is not acceptable. Let each group set their own standards. And, most important of all, if you can't accept or abide by the standards of your group/workplace, then leave and find another that suits you. If you detest violence and coarse language, don't get a job in a prison. And, if you do go into that type of environment, don't expect the staff and inmates to all act like Ghandi just to make you feel more comfortable!