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I would say the pursuit of Clowney says more about the team changing it's approach to the 2019 season. If you make this move you're no longer using the season to evaluate talent, you're trying to win games.
 

I would say the pursuit of Clowney says more about the team changing it's approach to the 2019 season. If you make this move you're no longer using the season to evaluate talent, you're trying to win games.

Clowney is 26, with at least 5 or 6 good years left. How is obtaining a player this young counter to building for the future?

 
gregorygrant83 said:
I would say the pursuit of Clowney says more about the team changing it's approach to the 2019 season. If you make this move you're no longer using the season to evaluate talent, you're trying to win games.
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If you're not trying to win games then you aren't evaluating talent and vice versa. You're constantly trying to make your team better, by trying new things with new players. That's how you get the most out of them.
 
Feverdream said:
I would say the pursuit of Clowney says more about the team changing it's approach to the 2019 season. If you make this move you're no longer using the season to evaluate talent, you're trying to win games.

Clowney is 26, with at least 5 or 6 good years left. How is obtaining a player this young counter to building for the future?
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Come on, he is 26, not on the wrong side of 30 lol.
 
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As for Harris, I really like him. As long as he continues to give the effort he has shown, he will always have work in the NFL.

But I highly doubt "hoping he breaks out" is factoring into a Clowney acquisition in any way.

Dolphins know he is limited
 
ANUFan said:
What a silly statement. Yes! He's not tearing up the league with sacks. But he's far from a player that doesn't belong on an NFL roster.
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It's just an opinion. It's another way of saying I don't think he will improve enough to be a part of this team's plans in a few years and I don't think he will hang on with his second and third teams very long, if they recognize what they have in him. Sure, some desperate or badly coached team may be mesmerized by his potential and hold onto that. We know as Dolphins fans that happens a fair bit. Seems like most years we lead the league in potential, but even that should only buy him 6 years in a perfect storm. I think he'll probably pad some sacks / hurries against inferior competition but he will never be consistent for that reason IMO. Can't get off blocks very well (does he have short arms or something ?), I think his legendary spin move seems easily nullified by competent tackles who seem to just push him at arm's length and let him spin in place and get nowhere, I think his legendary first step seems easily nullified by offside penalties and I think he lacks the lower body strength to anchor against the run, making him a liability on anything but third and long (and unless you are a very good pass rusher you need to be more than a third and long specialist). Right now it's no sillier to say a marginal player at best will not last long term than it is to say he will. There's no proof either way. Opinions are what we think based on what we see. Seems like having an opinion that isn't the same as yours sounds silly to you and I hope he proves me wrong, but even being wrong wouldn't make an honest opinion silly. Here's hoping he develops another move and better lower body strength and that changes his career.
 
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Kdawg954 said:
Come on, he is 26, not on the wrong side of 30 lol.
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I think it's more the thought process of...

1. We trade for him @ 26. He plays out the franchise tag.
2. We franchise him again, in an attempt to extend. 27. We need you bud, sign long term and holy crap we're looking good! So much so that he changes his mind and...
3. He signs a long term deal. After two franchise tag deals... so he's gotten pretty used to some aggressive money (20+ a year with the tag), so you'll sign him to 5 years/120 mm with 60 guaranteed. This is all super low end I imagine. So he'll be 32.

Phew. I just flat out don't like it. I realize Clowney is a prototype for what Flores runs - he'd be a much much better version of Flowers who is now of Detroit - but you'd have to trade for him and convince him to take a multi year deal that doesn't pay him nearly as much as ONE year of franchise tag. That wont happen.

Sorry, let the Jets give up a 3 year rental for an OLB/DE. We screwed Wash on a similar situations with Taylor - I'd prefer not to bother
 
Jason Taylor was 34 when he went to Washington so not even remotely close to the same thing.
 
Feverdream said:
I would say the pursuit of Clowney says more about the team changing it's approach to the 2019 season. If you make this move you're no longer using the season to evaluate talent, you're trying to win games.

Clowney is 26, with at least 5 or 6 good years left. How is obtaining a player this young counter to building for the future?
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Not so much a bout building for the future as the teams stated earlier this year was more about evaluating talent than win/loss record. I'm almost looking at it to be like another 16 game preseason schedule. So I mean they want to look at some young players and see what they have moving forward. I think a Clowney addition means they are not "tanking" or taking the 2019 season lightly. I think they believe making such a move could make the team as good or better than the 2018 7-9 Dolphins. If they can get to 9-7 they will be in the playoff hunt.
 
Feverdream said:
I would say the pursuit of Clowney says more about the team changing it's approach to the 2019 season. If you make this move you're no longer using the season to evaluate talent, you're trying to win games.

Clowney is 26, with at least 5 or 6 good years left. How is obtaining a player this young counter to building for the future?
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depends on what you give up for him
 
Rudock had a very good game and now has some trade value I would think 3rd-6th round pick, he would be a decent backup for some team, he could make the 53 and be moved at a later time.

TE Chris Myarick should have shown enough to boot Allen from the 53, excellent game from him

RB Mark Walton showed he is the 3rd best at minimum RB we have even if he is suspended some other RB will be only holding his spot
 
dougb123 said:
Rudock had a very good game and now has some trade value I would think 3rd-6th round pick, he would be a decent backup for some team, he could make the 53 and be moved at a later time.

TE Chris Myarick should have shown enough to boot Allen from the 53, excellent game from him

RB Mark Walton showed he is the 3rd best at minimum RB we have even if he is suspended some other RB will be only holding his spot
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Nice post bro. If they like Rudock they will have to find away to keep him on the roster. I don't think he will make it on to the PS. If you keep three QB's that takes away from another position.
 
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