Miami Dolphins’ on-field decisions raising questions

[GoonBoss]

Gaining the 15 yards is definitely not an absolute, but why call a low-percentage play that covers so much more than the 15 yards you need?

Why not call high-percentage plays that stand a much better chance of getting you your 15 yards?

Again, you gain nothing by being overly aggressive in that situation, other than looking "cool" and unpredictable perhaps.

As it was, we looked "cool" and unpredictable, and lost.

To me, you take the matchups where you can get them.

If you've got 1-1 iso down the field, take your shot. No one play lost that
game any more than any other did. At some point you've got to have and
show the confidence in your guys to make a play.

No matter how many times they've assed it up before.

 

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If the pass to Gates had worked, everyone would love the call. This is classic arm-chair QB/coaching

 

[GoonBoss]

If the pass to Gates had worked, everyone would love the call. This is classic arm-chair QB/coaching

That's really all it is.

That and now that the building is coming down, for some reason people
struggle to find a brick to be pulled out when there's no reason to with
the truck bomb that's already blown up.

 

[Shouright]

If the pass to Gates had worked, everyone would love the call. This is classic arm-chair QB/coaching

The best calls are the ones that stand the best chance of getting you what you need according to the situation, which has nothing to do with whether or not they work.

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To me, you take the matchups where you can get them.

If you've got 1-1 iso down the field, take your shot. No one play lost that
game any more than any other did. At some point you've got to have and
show the confidence in your guys to make a play.

No matter how many times they've assed it up before.

IMO, one-on-one matchups downfield are meaningless when you need only 15 yards to win a game.

Your perspective is taking the play completely out of its context. You have to consider what was going on in the game, as well.

 

[GoonBoss]

The best calls are the ones that stand the best chance of getting you what you need according to the situation, which has nothing to do with whether or not they work.

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IMO, one-on-one matchups downfield are meaningless when you need only 15 yards to win a game.

Your perspective is taking the play completely out of its context. You have to consider what was going on in the game, as well.

Again, if you could garuntee me that we pick up 15 yards otherwise, I'm all for it.
If we could pick up 15 yards when we needed to previously, we wouldn't be in the
position we were in.

 

[Shouright]

Again, if you could garuntee me that we pick up 15 yards otherwise, I'm all for it.
If we could pick up 15 yards when we needed to previously, we wouldn't be in the
position we were in.

I could say the same thing: if you could guarantee me Gates would catch the ball in-bounds, I'd be all for it. I still wouldn't like the play selection, because I think there are better ones to be made, but hey, if you're gonna guarantee me Gates catches the ball in-bounds, let's do it!

Of course neither of us can offer those guarantees, so the question then becomes, which approach stands a better chance of getting you what you need in the situation at hand?

 

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The best calls are the ones that stand the best chance of getting you what you need according to the situation, which has nothing to do with whether or not they work.

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IMO, one-on-one matchups downfield are meaningless when you need only 15 yards to win a game.

Your perspective is taking the play completely out of its context. You have to consider what was going on in the game, as well.

So you're saying if the pass to Gates works and Carpenter hits the chip shot to win, you would still complain about the call? Don't think so

 

[GoonBoss]

I could say the same thing: if you could guarantee me Gates would catch the ball in-bounds, I'd be all for it. I still wouldn't like the play selection, because I think there are better ones to be made, but hey, if you're gonna guarantee me Gates catches the ball in-bounds, let's do it!

Of course neither of us can offer those guarantees, so the question then becomes, which approach stands a better chance of getting you what you need in the situation at hand?

Honestly, I think it's right about the same % chance in application.

% means dick with this team.

What is the % chance any team's star WR drops 4 passes in the end zone after 3 games?

Pretty poor, but we've managed it. Whatever. Just saying that particular play is one
ocurance that really means balls in terms of Daboll being good or bad. There's heaps more
schematicly that is wrong with him than one isolated play call.

 

[Ed Norton]

Don't forget the way Carpenter has been struggling this season. They could have driven to the 10 and I'd still be worried. That was one play and really doesn't matter too much. I'm more worried about how they didn't get a big lead in the first half, how the defense couldn't get a stop when they needed one, how in 4 plays they couldn't get anything.

 

[Travis34]

Said Nolan: “Cleveland was using a lot of receivers, and … you don’t want too many linebackers. The only [inside] linebacker we had on the field was Kevin Burnett.”

So.... why exactly do they feel Burnett should be on the field when our coverage linebacker who can also rush the qb is sitting on the bench

 

[Shouright]

So you're saying if the pass to Gates works and Carpenter hits the chip shot to win, you would still complain about the call? Don't think so

The fact that the play didn't work is part of the issue. It's a low-percentage play.

 

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The fact that the play didn't work is part of the issue. It's a low-percentage play.

You're only saying it's a bad call because it didn't work
IMO, throwing an intermediate pass into single coverage by a nickel CB when everyone else is trying to stop the obvious short pass isn't a bad idea

 

[Shouright]

Honestly, I think it's right about the same % chance in application.

% means dick with this team.

What is the % chance any team's star WR drops 4 passes in the end zone after 3 games?

Pretty poor, but we've managed it. Whatever. Just saying that particular play is one
ocurance that really means balls in terms of Daboll being good or bad. There's heaps more
schematicly that is wrong with him than one isolated play call.

Could be, but again the larger issue is the coaching staff that seems to get completely backwards when it should be aggressive and when it should be conservative.

Put us down by 4 in the 3rd quarter at the same spot on the field, and I love the Gates call downfield.

Problem is, those would be the times the coaching staff would call three conservative plays and settle for a field goal, leaving us still down a point.

 

[Shouright]

You're only saying it's a bad call because it didn't work
IMO, throwing an intermediate pass into single coverage by a nickel CB when everyone else is trying to stop the obvious short pass isn't a bad idea

Any pass play that targets one receiver downfield is a lower-percentage play than a shorter pass that could go to several receivers in different areas.

 

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Any pass play that targets one receiver downfield is a lower-percentage play than a shorter pass that could go to several receivers in different areas.

In your opinion