He doesn't think much of Peyton or Eli Manning so get ready for that discussion to follow.
Miami has the hardest SOS in the AFC East, 18th Overall
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He doesn't think much of Peyton or Eli Manning so get ready for that discussion to follow.
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What does the record against all the other teams have to do with anything? Those records are not from the same opponents. If you are trying to compare the Dolphins to the Jets, you should only compare the common games. Over the last 3 years the Dolphins and Jets have both gone 9-9 in the AFCE.
In 2009, the Jets went 3-3 outside the division in common games while the Dolphins went 2-4. A 1 game difference. The Jets got to play the Colts backups while the Dolphins had to face the starters the whole game.
In 2010 the Jets went 5-3 outside the division in common games while Miami went 3-5. A 2 game difference. If it wasn't for a bad call against Pitt when Roethlisberger fumbled on his way to the endzone, the Dolphins would have been even at 4-4. The Dolphins choked away close games agasint Cle and Det while the Jets won those close games with the help of stupid decisions by those teams.
In 2011, the Jets went 4-4 while the Dolphins went 3-5. A 1 game difference. We all know how the game against the Cowboys went for the Jets and how it went for the Dolphins.
So, the Jets have won 4 more games than the Dolphins versus common opponents in 3 seasons. Considering everything, I think that it very close. Don't confuse being let in the playoffs in 09 and matching up well with NE in a playoff game in 10 as being an Elite team. The Jets have been average the last 3 years and although the Dolphins have been worse, they are not that far behind.
You advanced further than New England with a completely different team first off, you're team is nowhere near the level of New England anymore(I don't think the Jets have ever been near as good as this New England team in the first place), and the longer you hold onto Sanchez as a "franchise" QB the further down the drain your team goes. A lot of people even myself would always stand up for Henne and say that it's his 1st or 2nd season and he'll get there eventually until he was finally run out of town, and look where he is now, backing up Gabbert.If you honestly think Sparano is ANY kind of upgrade to Schotty then you're going to be in for a rough ride this year. When your team is running 1 WR routes on play action on 3rd and 13 you will be running Sparano out of town as fast as you did Schotty.
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Omgz! Come on guys! Let's not be homers here! The Jets are a lot better team then us since they made it to the AFC championship in 1998!!!!
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Until the Jets can over come the Patriots and win the division you are in the same boat as the rest us. The Jets need to be able to put away the Pats, Phins and Bills in all the division games in order to not be lumped in with us. Ever since the Rex "Blow Hard" Ryan has taken over in New York, the only team within the division New York has dominated is Buffalo. So until the Jets can dominate the division the way the Patriots have, the Jets only have a shot at a Wild Card just like the rest of the division. And lets face it, the Jets, Dolphins and Bills are no New York Giants.
Ya kno I just want to add my 2 cents sorry.
You say the Jets are on this higher level with the patriots, but here's how I see it.
The Miami Dolphins, as you stated, were 16-20(something) over some time that the Jets were 20(something)-16. In addition the Dolphins "regressed" this year. Wellllllllll the guy that that all happened under now runs half the Jets team. You have added a QB controvery to an already divided lockerroom. Your defense is nowhere near what it was the first 2 years you guys made the playoffs, nor is your run game.
On the other hand, The Buffalo Bills have a returning (now healthy) Qb, WR group, and a vastly improved defense. They were a team that opened STRONG this season and teetered off towards the end. But I think anyone who watched football this year can put 2 and 2 together and see that with the MAJOR additions theyve already made, some of the showings they put out their this year, and another DRAFT, that Buffalo is easily the 2nd best team in this division going into the new season.
NOWWW....As much as you might want to take away from the Miami Dolphins, truth is .....You know NOTHING. This is an entirely NEWcoaching staff, a roster that has been churned out and will continue to do so. And as much as people may want to knock Jeff ireland, do NOT be surprised if our drafts look more Philbin influenced, because looking at past drafts and past dolphins rosters, TONy SParano is written all over these players. I look for the Dolphins to feature a JOE PHILBIN roster slowly but surely. It wont be a one year transition, but it's already begun and quickly at that. So please don't pretend to have ANY clue as to what level the MIAMI DOLPHINS are on, because no one knows, this is a completely new team.
Maybe you want to bet on Rex Ryan, but I think i can speak for everyone on this board in saying, WE'LL BET ON JOE PHILBIN.
If were going to make predictions about any teams, Its that the NEW YORK JETS are bout to get very SPARANOFIED... Good luck with that one brah.
You say the Jets are on this higher level with the patriots, but here's how I see it.
The Miami Dolphins, as you stated, were 16-20(something) over some time that the Jets were 20(something)-16. In addition the Dolphins "regressed" this year. Wellllllllll the guy that that all happened under now runs half the Jets team. You have added a QB controvery to an already divided lockerroom. Your defense is nowhere near what it was the first 2 years you guys made the playoffs, nor is your run game.
On the other hand, The Buffalo Bills have a returning (now healthy) Qb, WR group, and a vastly improved defense. They were a team that opened STRONG this season and teetered off towards the end. But I think anyone who watched football this year can put 2 and 2 together and see that with the MAJOR additions theyve already made, some of the showings they put out their this year, and another DRAFT, that Buffalo is easily the 2nd best team in this division going into the new season.
NOWWW....As much as you might want to take away from the Miami Dolphins, truth is .....You know NOTHING. This is an entirely NEWcoaching staff, a roster that has been churned out and will continue to do so. And as much as people may want to knock Jeff ireland, do NOT be surprised if our drafts look more Philbin influenced, because looking at past drafts and past dolphins rosters, TONy SParano is written all over these players. I look for the Dolphins to feature a JOE PHILBIN roster slowly but surely. It wont be a one year transition, but it's already begun and quickly at that. So please don't pretend to have ANY clue as to what level the MIAMI DOLPHINS are on, because no one knows, this is a completely new team.
Maybe you want to bet on Rex Ryan, but I think i can speak for everyone on this board in saying, WE'LL BET ON JOE PHILBIN.
If were going to make predictions about any teams, Its that the NEW YORK JETS are bout to get very SPARANOFIED... Good luck with that one brah.
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The strength of the team continues to slip...
2009 - #1 in fewest points allowed...14.8 ppg
2010 - #6 in fewest points allowed...19 ppg
2011 - #20 in fewest points allowed...22.7 ppg
Unbelievable to keep Holmes after the on field implosion in season finally against Dolphins...time bomb...add in Tebow and a fan-base that more and more dislikes Sanchez and it is only a matter of time before the bomb goes off...tick, tick, tick
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How does NE get a ****ty schedule every year? 29th last year
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What I've noticed about New Englands' schedule is that they always seem to get the majority of their "tough" opponents at home and "more easily won" games on the road. Just you watch...
Roman529
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This!!!! I can't understand how anyone can feel that Sanchez/Tebow is going to work. Its not. All it is going to do is divide the locker room even more in New York. Sparano supposedly is going to instill some Wildcat formations for when Tebow is in there....so when Tebow does come in are defenses going to be confused by this?????? HELL NO. I am looking forward to the Jets getting stuffed...we already learned the hard way that the Wildcat and Sparano's offenses no longer work, and it is nothing more than a gimmick, but if the Jets are stupid enough to run it I wish them well.
Comical that when the Jets were dominating the Dolphins prior to the last 3 years, you spoke only of head to head match ups. I recall my first year in here you rubbing that in our faces.
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**** happens every year.
Yep I am a homer for discussing the FACTS. Clearly we are on the same level as Buf and Miami who have combined for ZERO playoff wins since 2001(and only 2 playoff apps) rather than NE who we have twice the amount of playoff wins as NE(including beating them up at NE). yep, I'm just a homer
Now deflect w/ silly statements that I never made, typical. Move along if you want to live in your fairy tale world rather than reality.
It shows what Miami has done in games against other teams. Miami has done a good job against us but not so good against everyone else.
I see a lot of excuses- 2009 we got Colts backups but you lost to 2 teams in the last 3 weeks that we beat earlier that season and neither would make the playoffs.
2010- that bad call HELPED Miami, it gave you a chance. if they call that a fumble Pitt is getting the ball back near midfield after they force you to punt from your EZ. You got the ball at your 29 needing to get into FG range for a good K w/ 2:20 to play. You had a chance and blew it.
2011: we do, the Jets BEAT the Cowboys and Miami LOST to them.
Last I checked the div games count:
2009: NYJ 7-5, Mia 5-7
2010: NYJ 8-4, Mia 4-8
2011: NYJ 5-6, Mia 4-7
Over 3 years in common games: NYJ 20-15, Mia 13-22
Not very close.
7 more wins against common opps
4 playoff wins vs. ZERO
2 playoff apps vs. ZERO
8 more reg season wins overall
yep, we are neck and neck
Considering the Jets are the ONLY team to reach 2 title games in the last 3 years and no team has more playoff wins than the Jets in that span I would say they have been elite the last 3 years.
The Jets overcame the Patriots in the divisional round of the playoffs. The ONLY team to ever win at NE w/ Brady in the div rd or title game and one of just 2 teams overall to ever win a playoff game at Gillette.
How are we lumped in w/ Mia & Buf when we have 4 playoff wins in the last 3 years which is twice as many as Mia, Buf AND NE since 2008? It's 4 more than Mia and Buf since 2001.
most of the sched is set years in advance. we rotate divisions in the AFC and the NFC then play the team that finishes in the same place in the other 2 AFC divisions. This year we play the NFC West and AFC South along w/ our div games so that's 14 games right there. NE plays the 1st place teams from the North(Ravens) and West(Broncos). There isn't a consipracy w/ the scheduke of teams.