Miami's identity & Seattle's formula

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Sorry. But your just lost in the weeds. I can no longer debate someone who puts words in my mouth and then moves the goal posts to suit their needs.

You too? I found out just yesterday that I apparently think Russell Wilson is 'terrible' and even better yet, I also just discovered that I have been arguing he's terrible for months.

:idk:

 

[phishxhead]

Sorry. But your just lost in the weeds. I can no longer debate someone who puts words in my mouth and then moves the goal posts to suit their needs.

Whatever. Parcells quit, Sparano sucked and Philbin is going the wrong way. Whats hard for you to grasp about that?

 

[Rev Kev]

Whatever. Parcells quit, Sparano sucked and Philbin is going the wrong way. Whats hard for you to grasp about that?

PHIX -> I'm hoping the GM and Philbin can work together because Jeff and Joe were not on the same page EVER - Joe wanted a LT and Jeff was stubborn and arrogant and would not grant it to him -> Martin would have then stayed at the Right side as freakin far away from Incognito as he could possibly get

 

[DuderinoN703]

Seattle has a coach that has a clue and can actually motivate his players. We got a guy that can't even think for himself in a damn press conference after the game.

Suddenly Pete Carroll is a good coach? What about the years he spent as a coach in Miami's division?

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Lol. When analyzing the identity of the Dolphins under Joe Philbin it will be the opposite of the Seahwaks. Joe wants a finesse team. He wants to be quick and agile upfront.

It makes no sense talking about getting "punch you in the mouth" type players under Philbin. I am the exact opposite in my belief system of how to win games. Give me the blue collar approach of the Seahawks, Niners and 2012 Ravens. However, when discussing who the Fins should get this offseason it has to be done through the lense of what Joe wants in a player.

Mike McCoy's Chargers aren't like the Seahawks, 49ers or 2012 Ravens.

 

[phishxhead]

PHIX -> I'm hoping the GM and Philbin can work together because Jeff and Joe were not on the same page EVER - Joe wanted a LT and Jeff was stubborn and arrogant and would not grant it to him -> Martin would have then stayed at the Right side as freakin far away from Incognito as he could possibly get

I'm hoping everyone works together cohesively as well. Removing Irelands abrasive arrogant personality should help. I don't really know what to think of Aponte at this point. I guess this all brings up the problem of keeping Philbin and Dawn - and that is this will be a factor in hiring the GM as he will have to be willing to work with them. I just wish we would do things right this time.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

You too? I found out just yesterday that I apparently think Russell Wilson is 'terrible' and even better yet, I also just discovered that I have been arguing he's terrible for months.

:idk:

Yea, dude can not understand plain english. Apparently, I am advocating for Sparano. Where I did no such thing. Anyone can look at my posts in this thread and I did no such thing. I simply pointed out that this fan base wanted something other than what Parcells wanted here. They wanted a open and dynamic offense, not the ground and pound that SF and SEA both employ.

Posters like him are the reason this fan base is so disfunctional. When Sparano was being run out of town. I do not remember one soul saying, KEEP THE SYSTEM IN PLACE. Not one person, that poster included. Even though he is advocating for such a system. Just nuts. But me explaining it again, isn't for you and the others who understood me. Its for the mental midgets who couldn't.

 

[phishxhead]

Yea, dude can not understand plain english. Apparently, I am advocating for Sparano. Where I did no such thing. Anyone can look at my posts in this thread and I did no such thing. I simply pointed out that this fan base wanted something other than what Parcells wanted here. They wanted a open and dynamic offense, not the ground and pound that SF and SEA both employ.

Posters like him are the reason this fan base is so disfunctional. When Sparano was being run out of town. I do not remember one soul saying, KEEP THE SYSTEM IN PLACE. Not one person, that poster included. Even though he is advocating for such a system. Just nuts. But me explaining it again, isn't for you and the others who understood me. Its for the mental midgets who couldn't.

So are you advocating for the Sparano system or you are dysfunctional as you are calling everyone else?

 

[SMadison29]

Watching Seattle's defense brings back memories of the early 2000s when we had similar personnel & ran a similar defensive scheme to Seattle. Too bad we wasted Jimmy's defense on the worst QB in the NFL for five years but I won't mention dumbo ears' name.

R.Sherman : S.Madison
B.Browner : P.Surtain
E.Thomas : B.Marion
B.Wagner : Z.Thomas
C.Avril/B.Irvin : J.Taylor
M.Bennett : A.Ogunleye
B.Mebane : T.Bowens

Hell even Marshawn Lynch to Ricky Williams. Our Super Bowl years were squandered on the fact that we had the dumbest QB in the NFL & Dave Wannstedt's incompetence of getting a new QB.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

So are you advocating for the Sparano system or you are dysfunctional as you are calling everyone else?

We have disagreed in the past but we always agreed on building from the the Lines out - and on Henne - the overall team leadership, the practice 3 sec clock, it was all too much for him, it would have alll been clearer sooner, his fragility, i know you and a handful of others like me hated the CP10 pick up, for the very reason we fell behind the mandate to find a franchise QB

The formula being used by those teams, is the one advocated by Parcells. Parcells issue was the QB position. I don't feel like going back to see who was against such a system, but it was plentiful here. SEA and SF are benefiting from years of high draft picks and those players coming into their own in years 3-5.

The fan base of MIA rails against smash mouth when they see a team like GB and NE win with passing the ball all over the field. Then they see the physical nature of SEA and SF, and rail against the beast they wanted. This fan base to a degree deserves the BS we are in right now. After all, I read on FH repeatedly that offensive linemen were not important to the modern day NFL. How did that work out?

The Sparano system was based on the Parcells system and philosophy. It to a degree is the same philosophy being employed by a Parcells disciple in BB this year. Going big and using multiple TE sets to use a power run game. The dysfunction is on the part of this fan base wanting something different than what was being built by Parcells. No one here was advocating on keeping such a system of a power run game on the field. In fact, it was the opposite. It was 'GET REAL' corn fed offensive linemen are a thing of the past, offensive linemen are plug and play, you can get them in any round nonsense. People here wanted a wide open passing offense.

The problem with Philbin is he knows what he wants and what will work, he just had a guy who was telling him no. Philbin was being handed one type of player, while needing another to successfully implement his system. How you people can fault him, while calling out Ireland, I don't know. But meh.

I am done homie. I won't rate you down anymore as I will now put you on ignore. I have nothing to gain in going around in circles with you. I have literally had to go back and highlight my posts, and those of posters that did not seem to have your problem of reading comprehension. Nothing dysfunctional on my part. My thoughts are there, and have been repeated.

 

[Rev Kev]

The Sparano system was based on the Parcells system and philosophy. It to a degree is the same philosophy being employed by a Parcells disciple in BB this year. Going big and using multiple TE sets to use a power run game. The dysfunction is on the part of this fan base wanting something different than what was being built by Parcells. No one here was advocating on keeping such a system of a power run game on the field. In fact, it was the opposite. It was 'GET REAL' corn fed offensive linemen are a thing of the past, offensive linemen are plug and play, you can get them in any round nonsense. People here wanted a wide open passing offense.

The problem with Philbin is he knows what he wants and what will work, he just had a guy who was telling him no. Philbin was being handed one type of player, while needing another to successfully implement his system. How you people can fault him, while calling out Ireland, I don't know. But meh.

I am done homie. I won't rate you down anymore as I will now put you on ignore. I have nothing to gain in going around in circles with you. I have literally had to go back and highlight my posts, and those of posters that did not seem to have your problem of reading comprehension. Nothing dysfunctional on my part. My thoughts are there, and have been repeated.

I am and always been happy lining up the hogs and keeping the ball away from the Likes of Brady, Manning With the help of the play action pass of course

 

[thefranchisedef]

I still can't believe they turned a receiving toghtend into a blocking fullback.

 

[j-off-her-doll]

Cool article on Seattle's GM - with some insight into the relationhip of him and Carroll.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2022635008_seahawksschneider10xml.html

He and Carroll met for two or three hours at the team’s office. The two talked philosophies and how they approached team building.

But something important happened. Schneider made Carroll laugh. They struck a personal chord and got along. Carroll could see himself collaborating with Schneider.

“I’m really proud of that relationship,” Carroll said earlier this season, “because without that we would be making errors, more errors than we have been. We’ve been pretty accurate.”

Can't help but think about the errors we likely committed as a result of the strained relationship between Philbin and Ireland - not that either is on Carroll or Schneider's level anyway.