Miami's QB situation

[MikeO]

Berlin couldn't hold onto a starters job in college. He isn't an NFL QB

 

[The Confessor]

ok smokingunz I belive the answer you are looking for is in the next years draft. who ? i am not sure but here are threee choices .

reggie mcneil texas a&m
brad smith Missouri
matt linehart usc
vincent young texas

I will say this , man i miss brian greise he looks like a hall of fame qb compared to feeley/ ferrotte

Good point, however here is pandora's box. Linehart and Smith will be gone in the first three picks, Young is runner first, which doesnt tend to pan out too good in the NFL and the verdict is still out on McNiel If we over-achieve this year, we will have a tough time getting a good QB at the mid-late 1st round. If we under-achieve, well then Finheaven will be a much smaller place due to all the suicides that will take place.

Edit: Sorry I mis-used the phrase Pandora's box. I should have phrased catch-22. Pandora's box is what is going to take place from the incoming after this blunder.....

 

[arnoldu]

We should play feeley until he starts to suck then put gus in till he sucks and keep switching because they both don't stay good very long

 

[MarinoNotElway]

I think its safe to say we will be drafting a QB with our 1st round pick next year! Unless a stud comes our way in free agency. I hope we dont pick up another teams backup.

 

[The Confessor]

We should play feeley until he starts to suck then put gus in till he sucks and keep switching because they both don't stay good very long

Sorry, this would have them doing tag-team between every play.:D :D :D :D

 

[zonk4ever]

Frerotte is still the starter. You guys forget we were playing the very best defense in football! (Steel Curtain) We couldn't run. We couldn't pass block. Gus made the right reads but the receivers did not make plays. Feeley's performance was mediocre. Anytime he threw a pass more than 5 yards, forget about it! And he had more blocking than Gus. Yeah he was 16 of 20 but the Steelers were laying off giving up the 5 yard tosses. This game was about turnovers and a super bowl team vs. a 4 - 12 team. The Steelers are sooooo deep! Their 4th string runner could beat out Ronnie Brown. (Willie Parker)
I am really impressed with Nick's defensive schemes. No wonder he's considered a genius. How many sack opportunites has our defense missed in the 3 exhibition games? He can only coach 'em. he can;t make the tackles. Patience Dolfans.

 

[King Madison II]

I know this much .i have been watching ou and osu's qbs and al pena is the most underated qb and this guy has dan's typ of aura about him he isnt mobile but bamn guys he has a great arm why is he a 3rd team guy ? because the other two are very mobil but they dont have as a accurate throw as pena does so i believe that i will take a accurate arm over mobility and a bad arm any day.

so the bottom line here is this qb is in my humble opinion the next tom brady and you can be rest ausred that he will be.

 

[Sirspud]

Frerotte is still the starter. You guys forget we were playing the very best defense in football! (Steel Curtain) We couldn't run. We couldn't pass block. Gus made the right reads but the receivers did not make plays. Feeley's performance was mediocre. Anytime he threw a pass more than 5 yards, forget about it! And he had more blocking than Gus. Yeah he was 16 of 20 but the Steelers were laying off giving up the 5 yard tosses. This game was about turnovers and a super bowl team vs. a 4 - 12 team. The Steelers are sooooo deep! Their 4th string runner could beat out Ronnie Brown. (Willie Parker)
I am really impressed with Nick's defensive schemes. No wonder he's considered a genius. How many sack opportunites has our defense missed in the 3 exhibition games? He can only coach 'em. he can;t make the tackles. Patience Dolfans.

I didn't see Gus make a correct read all night. When you are making bad throws, the opposing defense really is irrelevant. We wouldn't have beat the 49ers with the way he was throwing.

 

[adamprez2003]

Here are my thoughts on each of our QB's

Gus Frerotte:

I think he is a good QB with alot of experience, but he is to inconsistent. One week he can come out and dazzle the coachs and the next week he completely blows. Secondly, he is to older to depend on. We need a younger QB for the future. Plus, Gus is past his prime. He is a good backup that can tutor a younger QB, and step in from time to time. He is nothing more than a backup QB.

A.J. Feeley:

He is another inconsistent QB. He only plays good when he needs to.Like now that Gus is starting he comes out and out plays Gus, the minute you give him the starting job he will come out and do a horrible job. He never was a starter and he never will be.

Sage Rosenfels

Honestly I love Sage. I think he is an awesome QB, but I dont think he belongs in Miami. I would like to see him go somewhere else where he can compete because he isnt going to in Miami.

Brock Berlin:

I think he is the future of Miami, and i think if he got the chance he could be our starting QB this year. I hear he looked good in camp and he looked great on the field. I think he is a best QB so far this preseason. He has more yards than Feeley with about 20 less passes. He has the best comp.% with a 71.4%, and he has the best QB rating with 95.5. He is the best and he should get a shot.

As for the Tim Couch rumors,I say give him a shot, it cant hurt us.His numbers do compare with fellow 1999 draft pick and defending NFC Champion Donovan McNabb. There career passing totals are Couch=11131, McNabb=16926. And Couch does have a better comp.%, Couch=59.8%, McNabb=58.3%.Another thing is that McNabb actually hastargets in Philly. Couch had nobody, and if he can put up those #s with no targets, imagine what he do with them.

I say Feeleyneeds to go. We need to start looking at other options available because Feeley and Frerotte arent the answers.

I stopped reading after you said that Gus is a good QB who is inconsistent. The two do not go together. It's one or the other

 

[rogue13]

Berlin couldn't hold onto a starters job in college. He isn't an NFL QB

you have heard of tom brady right? what about cassell in NE too, they seem to be high on him. sage? is he a NFL QB? give me some time and i can think of more.

 

[djfresh47]

I know this much .i have been watching ou and osu's qbs and al pena is the most underated qb and this guy has dan's typ of aura about him he isnt mobile but bamn guys he has a great arm why is he a 3rd team guy ? because the other two are very mobil but they dont have as a accurate throw as pena does so i believe that i will take a accurate arm over mobility and a bad arm any day.

so the bottom line here is this qb is in my humble opinion the next tom brady and you can be rest ausred that he will be.

Tom Brady is a HOF Qb, I don't know of Al Pena, but chances are he won't come close to what Tom Brady has accomplished. It's crazy how one week Gus is the savior, the next he's the worst Qb in the world, the same thing happens with Feeley. My guess is after each game the same will be said about whoever starts, and the backup will be everybodies favorite player.

 

[SmokinGunz]

We should play feeley until he starts to suck then put gus in till he sucks and keep switching because they both don't stay good very long

Hey isn't that what they did last season? I tell you its going to be another fustrating season if they start that again. What if we pick up a QB from NFL europe?

 

[GridIronKing34]

I feel like Frerotte should keep starting through preseason. If he plays terrible again against the Bucs, and Feeley shines, because I feel he played very well for what it's worth. I say we let Feeley start the last game in preseason, but that's only if the circumstances go as I said before, Frerotte plays awful again and Feeley plays good again. We'll see how things roll...

 

[prolific]

Neither one of these qb's are the answer for this team. For all of gus' expereince with this offense I wuold have like to see better decisions with the ball and better throws. Feeley, this preseason was his proving ground to see if he can face adversity (new coaching staff, new offense, last years flaws, verteran competition who is well versed in this new offense etc.) and in my eyes he has failed to take command of this team. You can factor in dropped passes, bad oline play and any other varibles you like. I try to separate that from the "pure" qb equation. Can you move the chains consistantly, thus keeping your "d" fresh? Can you generate a resonable amount of points per posession in a given quarter? do you make smart choices with the rock in your hands? Do you have a swagger or pocket escapability, Especially with a gelling O-line? The most telling thing about these two qb's is that after OTA's, training camp, and so far this preseason NONE of these questions have been answered in my mind. Without a serious threat of a passing attack it will be a long season for ricky and ronnie......and dolphans......

Excellent summation but how do we or better yet can we fix it this season?

 

[Regan21286]

Here are my thoughts on each of our QB's

Gus Frerotte:

I think he is a good QB with alot of experience, but he is to inconsistent. One week he can come out and dazzle the coachs and the next week he completely blows. Secondly, he is to older to depend on. We need a younger QB for the future. Plus, Gus is past his prime. He is a good backup that can tutor a younger QB, and step in from time to time. He is nothing more than a backup QB.

A.J. Feeley:

He is another inconsistent QB. He only plays good when he needs to.Like now that Gus is starting he comes out and out plays Gus, the minute you give him the starting job he will come out and do a horrible job. He never was a starter and he never will be.

Sage Rosenfels

Honestly I love Sage. I think he is an awesome QB, but I dont think he belongs in Miami. I would like to see him go somewhere else where he can compete because he isnt going to in Miami.

Brock Berlin:

I think he is the future of Miami, and i think if he got the chance he could be our starting QB this year. I hear he looked good in camp and he looked great on the field. I think he is a best QB so far this preseason. He has more yards than Feeley with about 20 less passes. He has the best comp.% with a 71.4%, and he has the best QB rating with 95.5. He is the best and he should get a shot.

As for the Tim Couch rumors,I say give him a shot, it cant hurt us.His numbers do compare with fellow 1999 draft pick and defending NFC Champion Donovan McNabb. There career passing totals are Couch=11131, McNabb=16926. And Couch does have a better comp.%, Couch=59.8%, McNabb=58.3%.Another thing is that McNabb actually hastargets in Philly. Couch had nobody, and if he can put up those #s with no targets, imagine what he do with them.

I say Feeleyneeds to go. We need to start looking at other options available because Feeley and Frerotte arent the answers.

I'd want to see Berlin against real competition before I pass any judgment but he has done well so far. Frerotte and Feeley are true backups, not starters in my opinion. Rosenfels should be trade bait for any team that wants a backup but not likely anyone will take him. As for Couch, I suppose he's worth a shot. Jeff Garcia was a Pro Bowler but struggled with the Browns, who have no receiving threat and a shoddy O-Line. Here, it's slightly better, we have lots of receiving threats and a shoddy but improving line.