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Might We Keep Ricky?

I dont doubt ronnie will pan out but really why deal RW when we have him under contract this year and next at the minimum + incentives? thats what youd be paying a backup/rookie replacement anyway and right now we have have the best backup RB in the league.

Why dump him?

You cant get a day 1 pick for him cause no one trusts him to act in the best interest of the team. He has too much value to anyone else to deal for anything less than that.

IMO this is just common sense folks.
 
I can't wait to see a Ronnie/Ricky backfield myself, but IMO Sammy Morris being on the field is not a bad thing at all. He's got great vision and runs hard between the tackles. A very competent backup if we were to trade Ricky.
 
SMadison29 said:
It would be foolish to trade either. We don't know how long Ricky will be around, plus he's extremely cheap. We're gonna need both RBs this year & in the future to be successful.
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I think a Brown/Morris combo would be nice too!!! We don't need RW to be succesful, Brown is going to be a beast in the NFL, and he can do it ALL. Brown, Morris, Chatman sounds like a helluva stable of RB's to me, maybe not as good as Brown, RW, Morris, Chatman, but it's still good. Now I'd without a doubt have a TOTALLY different opinion if RW was reliable, and not one snap decision, or drug test away from never seeing the field again, but this is obviously not the case, and if it were we never would have drafted Brown in the first place.
 
I remember everyone was very quick to jump on Kevin Faulk as a bust for the Pats, but I would argue that he has been a valuable part of their team the past few years.

Ronnie is similar in terms of his versatility, but he can also run with authority between the tackles. My point is that Ronnie doesn't have to be Ricky to be considered a good back. If he can give us around 60 yards on the ground and 30-40 receiving yards per game he's doing his job. When Ricky leaves, then we'll ask him to carry more of a load on the ground, but this year he just needs to be a role player.
 
outlawd2u said:
I think a Brown/Morris combo would be nice too!!! We don't need RW to be succesful, Brown is going to be a beast in the NFL, and he can do it ALL. Brown, Morris, Chatman sounds like a helluva stable of RB's to me, maybe not as good as Brown, RW, Morris, Chatman, but it's still good. Now I'd without a doubt have a TOTALLY different opinion if RW was reliable, and not one snap decision, or drug test away from never seeing the field again, but this is obviously not the case, and if it were we never would have drafted Brown in the first place.
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I like sammy but c'mon man RW strikes fear ino defenses. Sammy morris is what he is; a nice change of pace guy who's versitile. Every team should have a guy like him but relying too heavily on a guy like that is a mistake.
 
If we can get great value for him we will probally move him but If nobody is willing to overspend on him I think Nick is happy to have him. It is always nice to have two capable RB's.
 
vinivedivichi said:
I remember everyone was very quick to jump on Kevin Faulk as a bust for the Pats, but I would argue that he has been a valuable part of their team the past few years.

Ronnie is similar in terms of his versatility, but he can also run with authority between the tackles. My point is that Ronnie doesn't have to be Ricky to be considered a good back. If he can give us around 60 yards on the ground and 30-40 receiving yards per game he's doing his job. When Ricky leaves, then we'll ask him to carry more of a load on the ground, but this year he just needs to be a role player.
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I never knew that Faulk came in with enough expectations to be considered a bust, but I don't remember when/where he was drafted. As for Ronnie, he showed some good power and his vision will get better.
 
I say keep both. I really dont think theres a chance of Brown being traded. With Ricky being 29 and Brown 23, its nice to have a younger talaned back as a backup plan. Plus with the salary cap, it would be almost impossible. Enjoy them when they are finally able to run together. Its going to be something special.
 
We will almost certainly keep both, at least for this season. Ricky has a minimum contract and his trade value is far lower than his talent due to reliability concerns. It only makes sense to play them both. I could see ronnie playing some h-back to get them both on the field since he is such an outstanding blocker and receiver. His versatility and Ricky's instincts running the ball will make us very tough to defend.

I do think Ricky will be gone next year, since we can't pay 2 guys big money, and RIcky will need a new deal.
 
Nature Boy said:
Ronnie Brown may or may not pan out... but i know he will never be as good as Ricky. So my question... if we have both guys, why would we keep Brown? Ricky is a freak, as we all know... is there a chance we actually trade Brown? It would be quite odd to do that with your first pick, but to me you should keep whoever is the better back.
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Why do people keep making posts like this? There is nothing wrong with having two great runningbacks. There is no problem with the cap so why not keep both no matter what?
 
Boik14 said:
I like sammy but c'mon man RW strikes fear ino defenses. Sammy morris is what he is; a nice change of pace guy who's versitile. Every team should have a guy like him but relying too heavily on a guy like that is a mistake.
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I don't know about that . If the Offensive line comes together it really should not matter who is in the backfield. Look at Denver and Kansas City. They have great offensive lines. That give their backs some good holes to run through.

As for the first poster who asked about trading Ronnie. it would not happen salary cap wise and plus Ricky is an unpredictable guy. Why would you trust him to screw us again. We need the insurance of a guy like Ronnie. And plus given time Ronnie can be just as good if not beter than Ricky. because he can be an all purpose guy.
 
marinotoclayton said:
I don't know about that . If the Offensive line comes together it really should not matter who is in the backfield. Look at Denver and Kansas City. They have great offensive lines. That give their backs some good holes to run through.
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This is true but those lines also have particular styles of backs that fit their system. In other words until we establish that our OL excels with patient cutback runners like those offenses we cant just have backs coming and going like Den and Kc seem to do with great success. And again it all comes back to RW's low base salary. Why get rid of an all pro who's on an incentive laden deal when we cant get an equal return for him? Makes no sense.
 
Boik14 said:
This is true but those lines also have particular styles of backs that fit their system. In other words until we establish that our OL excels with patient cutback runners like those offenses we cant just have backs coming and going like Den and Kc seem to do with great success. And again it all comes back to RW's low base salary. Why get rid of an all pro who's on an incentive laden deal when we cant get an equal return for him? Makes no sense.
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Well for one I never said anything about getting rid of Ricky. He will leave on his own. Or get traded somehow.

And thats exactly what I said the o line needs to get better and then they can have backs like denver and KC. This offensive line could block just like other teams run block. Their is no real reason why they should not be able to.


And trading Ricky would make more sense than trading Ronnie right now. Just for the fact of salary cap implications. Ricky owes us money. So trading him would make sense if we got some sort of compensation for him.
 
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