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Mike Nolan "Aaron is ahead of Alex"

We've heard that SF's general manager likes Smith, but head coach Mike Nolan preferes Rodgers. This GM doesn't have final say authority. So he could be working overtime to try and get his guy (Smith) drafted. This could be a reason why we're getting conflicting reports. That and perhaps an outside shot at inspiring a tradeup.

And notice how Nolan only noted that Rodgers is ahead of Smith, not that he's better. Who knows.
 
Nolan just wants the Niners to get some attention b/c he knows if he gets Tampa or the Vikes to trade up to #1 that Rodgers (who is their man) will probably still be there at #5 or #7. I will be the first to tell him that his plan is not going to work.
 
Although that article is recent, that quote was out there before the Bucs trade rumors started to come into fruition, right after Rodgers and Smith had there first workouts on consecutive days. I think the whole San Fran is jealous so they are lying about who they are leaning towards is juvenile.
 
JCfinfan said:
Nolan just wants the Niners to get some attention b/c he knows if he gets Tampa or the Vikes to trade up to #1 that Rodgers (who is their man) will probably still be there at #5 or #7. I will be the first to tell him that his plan is not going to work.
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I wouldn't be so sure. With Saban sticking to his guns on the price and the Niners having the #1 pick (and the right to negotiate a contract with the player before they select him), they might get it done.

If it doesn't happen, I think it is because the Bucs and Vikings are both after Edwards. The Niners aren't a threat, so they figure they can save some bucks on his contract if they only trade up to #2 to get him. Of course, we could end up seeing them trade with the Browns if we're not careful...
 
They aren't jealous, they're just trying to gain Gruden's interest.
 
Jimmy James said:
I wouldn't be so sure. With Saban sticking to his guns on the price and the Niners having the #1 pick (and the right to negotiate a contract with the player before they select him), they might get it done.

If it doesn't happen, I think it is because the Bucs and Vikings are both after Edwards. The Niners aren't a threat, so they figure they can save some bucks on his contract if they only trade up to #2 to get him. Of course, we could end up seeing them trade with the Browns if we're not careful...
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Good point. We definatley need to be careful or we may get screwed.
 
As a famous philosopher once said."Its not over until its over".Indeed the plot has thickened but I think you will find that that the developments of these last few days are being propped up by a lot of hot gas designed to deceive and mislead.
 
Schleprock said:
true, but IMO I think this is an ego thing for SF. I think they want Rodgers and have all along, but now they see the interest Miami has all over their jocks when they say they want Smith. Because of this SF has a self esteem problem because they are #1 overall and no one wants to come out and play with them. Now they are going to pull an attention getting ploy. They have no want for Smith and with what they see they believe they can still get Rodgers possibly if they trade down a couple and grab more picks, because most want Smith or a RB or Edwards.

In short, I think SF feels they should be directing this draft. Since it is actually Miami and Saban doing it I think they are making up all this Smith BS in order to get the trade down/picking power on their side. They should just STFU and pick Rodgers.
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It has nothing to do w/self esteem or ego. It has to do with being in the best possible in the draft. If I was a fins fan I probably would be irritated as well since they've been in the drivers seat for some time now and it's being taken away by the niners........but it's definitely not do to esteem, just smart negotiating.
 
Muck said:
We've heard that SF's general manager likes Smith, but head coach Mike Nolan preferes Rodgers. This GM doesn't have final say authority. So he could be working overtime to try and get his guy (Smith) drafted. This could be a reason why we're getting conflicting reports. That and perhaps an outside shot at inspiring a tradeup.

And notice how Nolan only noted that Rodgers is ahead of Smith, not that he's better. Who knows.
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Ah, but San Fran doesn't have a GM, Nolan has final say, he has a personnel guy like Spielman was to Wannstedt.
 
Yeah, he has a Vice President of Player Personnel. Nolan has final say.
 
heres the more current article

49ers target Smith, but signability a concernBy Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
Related Video:
Mort's draft preview: 49ers and Dolphins

There is still a chance that Alex Smith will not be the first pick in this weekend's NFL draft but four league sources, all involved to varying degrees in the selection process, confirmed on Monday afternoon that the standout Utah quarterback is first in the hearts of the San Francisco 49ers.

Officials from the 49ers, who won the dubious distinction of having the top choice by virtue of their 2-14 record in 2004, apprised the representatives for Aaron Rodgers over the weekend that they favored Smith by a small but definitive margin over the University of California quarterback.

Also, over the weekend, some San Francisco coaches insisted in the 49ers' draft meetings that the franchise needed to choose the best player, not the most "signable" one. Toward that end, the 49ers have ramped up negotiations with Tom Condon, the agent for Smith.

"Taking the money out of the equation, and just evaluating the football [elements], Smith is [the] preference," said one source.

It is believed that, while the San Francisco brain trust feels Rodgers would be a viable choice, they rate Smith as the superior all-around athlete, with better intangibles. Smith, who compiled a 21-1 record as the Utah starter, will not turn 21 until two weeks after the draft and possesses a solid football foundation.

Condon was in the Bay Area last Thursday and Friday to huddle with 49ers officials. The Monday discussions between the two sides were conducted by telephone and fax. There remain considerable differences between the negotiating positions of the two sides.

The 49ers are confident, sources said, that they can complete a contract agreement with Rodgers before the draft. Consummating an accord with Smith, though, might be tougher. Condon represented the first overall choice in the 2004 draft, quarterback Eli Manning, and is seeking a contract similar to that one.

After being traded from the San Diego Chargers to the New York Giants on draft day, Manning signed a six-year deal that is generally valued at $45 million, with the potential to earn an additional $9 million in incentives.

San Francisco officials will work hard on securing Smith for the next day or two, then face a potentially difficult decision, likely by mid-week. If there is no deal in place for Smith by then, the 49ers will have to determine whether they should still choose him, and work out the contract later, or turn their attention to Rodgers.

Manning did not sign last summer until the eve of the start of training camp, but the 49ers would prefer to strike a deal with the top pick before the draft begins Saturday at noon ET.

It will be interesting, if the 49ers do, indeed, take Smith, to see where Rodgers ends up. For whatever reason, Rodgers has not generated the same degree of interest as has Smith after the top overall pick. Several teams are interested in trying to trade up for Smith if the 49ers do not select him. Not all of those teams, however, covet Rodgers nearly as much.

source http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2040137
 
rodgers going to the 49ers would be nice.

Blue, I think you're going to mightily disappointed on Saturday. I really cannot see us drafting a QB. As I've said before, I would like Smith because he would solve our QB issues. But with a trade down imminent I cannot see it happening.
 
good luck to the 49ers if they really wanna sign smith before the weekend, tom condon is his agent....:lol:
 
Here's what NBC sports has to say:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7149535/

Although most NFL draft boards are starting to take shape, trades could still affect things. The Cardinals and Bills have been talking about a deal that would send running back Travis Henry to Arizona for tackle LJ Shelton.

The biggest change is at the top of this board, where the 49ers finally opt for the local boy over Utah's Alex Smith unless Cal's Aaron Rogers prices himself out of becoming this year's first of the first draft picks.

No matter what the 49ers settle on, this remains a difficult draft to read because there is no real strength at the top.

1. 49ers Aaron Rodgers QB 6-2 223 Cal
With so little to pick between Rodgers and Utah's Alex Smith, the 49ers go for the local boy and hope he makes good. They also hope he'll sell a few tickets for a franchise who has begun to see more openings in the stands than in their running game.

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2. Dolphins Alex Smith QB 6-4 212 Utah
No one expects this, but Nick Saban is a smart coach and a ****y one. He has to believe he can coach the Dolphins at least back to .500 on his own with the defense he has in place. If that's true, he'll never get his hands on a true franchise quarterback and hence will be trying to beat Tom Brady, Chad Pennington and an ex-No. 1 pick in Buffalo's JP Losman with a former third-string quarterback from the Eagles in A.J. Feeley. That won't feel too good to Saban, so he forgoes the running back he wants in favor of the franchise quarterback he'll only have one shot at.
 
juicyjay504 said:
heres the more current article

49ers target Smith, but signability a concernBy Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
Related Video:
Mort's draft preview: 49ers and Dolphins

There is still a chance that Alex Smith will not be the first pick in this weekend's NFL draft but four league sources, all involved to varying degrees in the selection process, confirmed on Monday afternoon that the standout Utah quarterback is first in the hearts of the San Francisco 49ers.

Officials from the 49ers, who won the dubious distinction of having the top choice by virtue of their 2-14 record in 2004, apprised the representatives for Aaron Rodgers over the weekend that they favored Smith by a small but definitive margin over the University of California quarterback.

Also, over the weekend, some San Francisco coaches insisted in the 49ers' draft meetings that the franchise needed to choose the best player, not the most "signable" one. Toward that end, the 49ers have ramped up negotiations with Tom Condon, the agent for Smith.

"Taking the money out of the equation, and just evaluating the football [elements], Smith is [the] preference," said one source.

It is believed that, while the San Francisco brain trust feels Rodgers would be a viable choice, they rate Smith as the superior all-around athlete, with better intangibles. Smith, who compiled a 21-1 record as the Utah starter, will not turn 21 until two weeks after the draft and possesses a solid football foundation.

Condon was in the Bay Area last Thursday and Friday to huddle with 49ers officials. The Monday discussions between the two sides were conducted by telephone and fax. There remain considerable differences between the negotiating positions of the two sides.

The 49ers are confident, sources said, that they can complete a contract agreement with Rodgers before the draft. Consummating an accord with Smith, though, might be tougher. Condon represented the first overall choice in the 2004 draft, quarterback Eli Manning, and is seeking a contract similar to that one.

After being traded from the San Diego Chargers to the New York Giants on draft day, Manning signed a six-year deal that is generally valued at $45 million, with the potential to earn an additional $9 million in incentives.

San Francisco officials will work hard on securing Smith for the next day or two, then face a potentially difficult decision, likely by mid-week. If there is no deal in place for Smith by then, the 49ers will have to determine whether they should still choose him, and work out the contract later, or turn their attention to Rodgers.

Manning did not sign last summer until the eve of the start of training camp, but the 49ers would prefer to strike a deal with the top pick before the draft begins Saturday at noon ET.

It will be interesting, if the 49ers do, indeed, take Smith, to see where Rodgers ends up. For whatever reason, Rodgers has not generated the same degree of interest as has Smith after the top overall pick. Several teams are interested in trying to trade up for Smith if the 49ers do not select him. Not all of those teams, however, covet Rodgers nearly as much.

source http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2040137
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We've all seen that, it was already posted, The Niners decided over the weekend to get into the tradedown game.
 
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