Mike Wallace's Sturggles are not on Mike Wallace

[dnespins]

17.25 wallace
6.25 hartline
3.73 gibson
583k matthews

that, folks, is the most expensive wr corps in the nfl in 2014, with a guaranteed/cap hit figure of nearly $28 million.

 

[Phinatic8u]

Use some damn screens to him

I remember seeing 2 used. One was a TD during the colts game, and one was last week on a huge 3rd down play.

 

[FSU Truth]

Use some damn screens to him

I remember seeing 2 used. One was a TD during the colts game, and one was last week on a huge 3rd down play.

You're asking for creativity....Sherman frowns on creativity....

 

[Phinatic8u]

You're asking for creativity....Sherman frowns on creativity....

Then his ass needs to go.

You have the fastest WR in the nfl, but you constantly throw out routes to him.

Mindnumbingly stupid.

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I will say this though.

If Tannehill threw a couple of those deep balls better, I.e not getting hit thru his motion, or just threw the ball where he's going and not where he's at, Wallace would more than likely have a few more TDs.

 

[phins_4_ever]

I'm seeing many people criticize Mike Wallace like his struggles are all his fault. And I'm going to disagree with that assessment. Mike Wallace is who he's always been. A deep threat receiver that can get behind the defense and catch the football. The problem is how this coaching staff is using him! This regime has a history of misusing players. The coaching staff's job is to identify the players strengths and find ways to utilize those strengths. What we do is ask players to do things they've never done, and aren't really good at. Let me give you a few examples. Reggie Bush, Great in open space, in the passing game and outside runs. Did they do much of that with him last year?? Nope. Sean Smith V. DAvis, good man to man physical cover corners, what did this coaching staff ask them to do? Play off man zone coverage. :-\ John Jerry, R. Incognito R. Clabo.... Physical Maulers, what do we ask them to do? Zone block. And Mike Wallace.. Fast Deep threat guy that can get behind defenses and run quick slants, screens etc... What are we asking him to do? Run sidline outs, comebacks basically be a possession receiver. Which in theory there's nothing wrong with developing his game, but you have to also continue to incorporate the things you know he excels at. I really think that if this regime had Tom Brady, they'd make him run the read option. SMDH

I agree. The perfect play design for Wallace is to throw it to Hartline or Matthews. They catch it and run it to Wallace and hand him the ball. Our coaching staff sucks. They should know Wallace better.

 

[hoops]

you've got a timing based qb and wr in hartline especially and a wr in wallace who needs to understand this as well...i don't know why you come here after watching tannehill play last year and think that he's gonna become this big improv qb who wings it when he wasn't that last year or in college even

the ball comes out the vast majority of the time on timing...wallace either has to adjust or they need to find a happy medium...but lets also say that while the qb and wr need to make some compromises the pass pro needs to play better to allow for these plays to develop...especially when your qb is not an elite extend plays in the pocket one at this stage

 

[JFoxx]

Plenty of blame to go around here, while Wallace isn't being utilized the way he should, he does need to produce when he gets his chances. Can't just line him up and throw him 20 go routes a game. But don't give Sherman that idea, he might just do it, especially if we are getting 10 yards a carry on the ground in the first half. There obviously is a disconnect somewhere in the front office too. Why go get guys just based on stats if they got those stats with an entirely different scheme on offense or defense and expect them to produce the same in our scheme? Our GM finally got some decent players, but forgot that they might not fit our current coaching scheme. Oops!

 

[JTech194]

See I don't really care how they're using him, he has to make the big, tough, hard catch. That's why he's the 60million dollar man.

But he's NEVER done that. Instead of asking him to do something he obviously isn't capable of doing, being that he's never done it. Why not call some plays that actually fits his skillset?

 

[gofins60]

Our GM finally got some decent players, but forgot that they might not fit our current coaching scheme. Oops!

Since the current coaching scheme doesn't exactly fit the players, then the easiest solution is to change schemes (and coaches) rather than waste money on the talent that is already on the team.

 

[Swantoon]

But he's NEVER done that. Instead of asking him to do something he obviously isn't capable of doing, being that he's never done it. Why not call some plays that actually fits his skillset?

Because when they do, he drops the ball.

 

[JTech194]

That ball was WAY behind him and I'm not sure he even got two hands on it. People make it seem like its easy run full speed in one direction and contort and twist your body in the opposite direction and catch a pass. He's not that receiver and never has been. Just because he makes 60 million dollars wont change that. You can pay me 60 millions dollars and ask me to be a brain surgeon, don't mean i'm gonna be able to do it. With that being said, yes he's dropped some passes, but most of the passes I've seen him drop were, comebacks, in routes, Digs etc.. Im not completely removing him from blame, alls i'm saying is that how about we ask him to do the things he's already proven that he can do

 

[JTech194]

How do you know how open Mike Wallace is getting, and how often? Do you have access to the all-22 game film?

Not sure where I said I know how open he is getting and how often. But i'll amuse you anyway, the NFL has this neat little product called NFL Game rewind... that gives you access to all camera angles, the same camera angles that the coaches have, they actually call it "coached film" you can telestrate, diagram and everything. It's pretty neat.

 

[JTech194]

Really Wallace looks to me like Ted Ginn, minus the fire. All of their weaknesses appear very similar IMO, but Ginn actually appeared to have a competitive spirit that Wallace doesn't.

That's exactly what he looks like HERE! But in Pitt he looked completely different. He routinely took crossing routes for TD's breaking tackles and making people miss in the process. Haven't seen any of that here. You mean to tell me he's all of a sudden forgot how to do those things? I'm not buying it. If it was just one player, I might agree with you all, but it's a troubling trend with players that come here.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

That ball was WAY behind him and I'm not sure he even got two hands on it. People make it seem like its easy run full speed in one direction and contort and twist your body in the opposite direction and catch a pass. He's not that receiver and never has been. Just because he makes 60 million dollars wont change that. You can pay me 60 millions dollars and ask me to be a brain surgeon, don't mean i'm gonna be able to do it. With that being said, yes he's dropped some passes, but most of the passes I've seen him drop were, comebacks, in routes, Digs etc.. Im not completely removing him from blame, alls i'm saying is that how about we ask him to do the things he's already proven that he can do

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Ran

The

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Look at the game video. See the safety? The safety is inside. Ready to take his head off. See the ball placement? The ball placement is OUTSIDE, away from the safety. Ryan Tannehill threw the ball correctly.

Incidentally, Mike Wallace is not doing things he's proven he's done in Pittsburgh. You know what he did in Pittsburgh? He came down with contested catches when he was underthrown by Roethlisberger. When the QB underthrows the receiver, he can make adjustments to the football and execute the catch. He did that in Pittsburgh. He has only done it once so far here. That's a problem.

Ryan Tannehill needs a lot of improvement, but Mike Wallace's problems are Mike Wallace's problems.

 

[hoops]

HE

Ran

The

Route

Wrong


Look at the game video. See the safety? The safety is inside. Ready to take his head off. See the ball placement? The ball placement is OUTSIDE, away from the safety. Ryan Tannehill threw the ball correctly.

yeah that's a lack of awareness by wallace of where the positioning of the safety and running his route accordingly...right route but turned to the wrong side...might just be something that wallace needs time on in this o...might be a problem he's gonna continue to have...