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Minicamp Day 2 Report

hoops said:
What Chubb quote?
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This one:

"I'm gonna say last year, we was lying, honestly," Chubb said Wednesday. "Point blank. Period. We felt it, you know what I mean. We put our toe in the water, but we didn't dive all the way in. We didn't get all the way there with each other. We weren't making the effort to go the extra mile."

So, what makes this year different as the conversation resurfaces during minicamp, with players and coaches once again stressing a renewed commitment to culture?

"I'm not sure how it's going to turn out for us, but we are putting forward that foot to change it," Chubb said. "Last year, like I said, we said 'We wanted to change that, we're doing this, we're doing that,' but it's not going exactly how we want to. But this year I feel like everybody has the right mindset and moving forward. If it works out it works out, if it doesn't we're going to get back to the drawing board and make sure it works
 
Finsup1981 said:
This one:

"I'm gonna say last year, we was lying, honestly," Chubb said Wednesday. "Point blank. Period. We felt it, you know what I mean. We put our toe in the water, but we didn't dive all the way in. We didn't get all the way there with each other. We weren't making the effort to go the extra mile."

So, what makes this year different as the conversation resurfaces during minicamp, with players and coaches once again stressing a renewed commitment to culture?

"I'm not sure how it's going to turn out for us, but we are putting forward that foot to change it," Chubb said. "Last year, like I said, we said 'We wanted to change that, we're doing this, we're doing that,' but it's not going exactly how we want to. But this year I feel like everybody has the right mindset and moving forward. If it works out it works out, if it doesn't we're going to get back to the drawing board and make sure it works
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Guys making $30 mil a year and basically saying they didn’t give max effort last year

Ha ha ha… if it don’t work out we will just start over again.

And folks wonder why I think this year the wheels fall off.
 
hoops said:
Guys making $30 mil a year and basically saying they didn’t give max effort last year

Ha ha ha… if it don’t work out we will just start over again.

And folks wonder why I think this year the wheels fall off.
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Chubb was talking about making an effort on the culture stuff, he was not talking about effort on the field. Hence the bit right after his remarks - "So, what makes this year different as the conversation resurfaces during minicamp, with players and coaches once again stressing a renewed commitment to culture?"
 
Golphindolphin said:
Chubb was talking about making an effort on the culture stuff, he was not talking about effort on the field. Hence the bit right after his remarks - "So, what makes this year different as the conversation resurfaces during minicamp, with players and coaches once again stressing a renewed commitment to culture?"
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Ok yeah I misread it. I still tbink the wheels are falling off but fair enough.

I know I’m sick of the culture crap it’s an excuse for poor results.

They always got some excuse built in.
 
DrMultimedia said:
Ingold sighting. I'll be honest... Just not sure he's worth a spot on the roster. He sure can block, but I want a bit more out of a fullback.
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I'll be honest...I love Ingold and think he is well worth a spot on the roster. In this offense, being able to block is 90% of what is expected out of the fullback. Maybe I'm biased a little because I think he is an awesome person with a great backstory.
He seems like the kind of guy you'd hope your daughter brings home to meet you and your spouse.
 
hoops said:
Ok yeah I misread it. I still tbink the wheels are falling off but fair enough.

I know I’m sick of the culture crap it’s an excuse for poor results.

They always got some excuse built in.
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I agree on the culture BS . I miss the days when "culture" was taping a rookie to the goalposts or throwing a live alligator in the shower with Coach Shula, ya definitely couldn't fake those kinds of things. I'll bet these guys don't even towel snap each other.
 
Feverdream said:
Ingold just doesn't make enough money to worry about.

It's pocket change in NFL terms. Good special teams players make almost that much.

I've never understood those who want to ditch Ingold for a few quarters out of the seat cushions.
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“What people don’t understand is, so Alec Ingold makes a block,” coach Mike McDaniel began. “Well, when he comes from the backfield and goes into the line of scrimmage and blocks whomever, half the team adjacent to him has better angles at their blocks.

“So a fullback allows you to every play, not only is he executing his block, but he’s made the angle better for the center on his target, which helps him execute his blocks.”

In other words, Ingold, who has 18 carries for 25 yards and two touchdowns in three seasons with the Dolphins, is essential for the run game’s success, possibly as essential as running back De’Von Achane or former running back Raheem Mostert (now with Las Vegas).

It was the low-profile Ingold who cleared the way for Mostert in his Pro Bowl season of 2023, when Mostert had a franchise-record 18 rushing touchdowns.

“Simply put, a fullback in the run game for offenses is the ultimate point guard for the offensive line, helping their angles and their leverage and their ability to block talented athletes,” McDaniel said.

Yes, part of the reason for the run game’s nosedive last season was due to the season-ending knee injury to right tackle Austin Jackson after the Buffalo game in early November.

But Ingold was injured in that same game. He missed the next two games, against the Los Angeles Rams and Las Vegas, before returning to face his hometown Green Bay Packers.

Including the Buffalo game, the Dolphins had a streak of five consecutive 100-yard rushing games.

After the Buffalo game the Dolphins had a streak of six consecutive games under 100 rushing yards. Their best showing in that stretch was 82 yards rushing against Las Vegas. Their six-game average was 59.4 yards per game.

Ingold’s physical presence and football intelligence were both definitely missed.

“I think ‘F’ fullback in this offense, you could call it problem-solver a little bit,” said Ingold, who battled calf and ankle injuries for the second half of the 2024 season. “Like being able to fix things on the fly, to keep things clean for the running backs, to direct their eyes, to give them some calming presence so they get one extra revolution on cuts to kind of help everything ease out from the front line to the backfield and the wideout.”

McDaniel spoke earlier Tuesday about the running game’s role in helping the Dolphins get more plays of 25 or more yards, a category in which they ranked near the bottom of the league in 2024 after ranking near the top of the league in 2022 and 2023.

McDaniel said teams will continue playing the Dolphins’ pass game the same way until the run game can force them to change their strategy.

Ingold, a physical presence in the offense, is a big part of that solution.

“The physicality at the point of attack,” McDaniel said, “the known match-ups going into a game where, hey, this dude is a physical thumper that compresses force. Alright well, ‘Hey Alec, we’re going to need a tone set at the beginning of the game.’ Those things, in football, that’s the end all.”

Ingold is perhaps the kindest, most giving guy on the team.

His charity, the Ingold Family Foundation, seeks to “empower underserved youth” through sports. He’s highly intelligent. He’s always available for the media and gives honest, thoughtful, insightful answers.

He’s genuinely a nice guy.

But don’t get in his path on a running play. He’ll clean your clock."

I wanted us to draft Ingold that year. We were sure a FB in the 7th was a real possibility. We'd already double-dipped with two Wisconsin Badgers, Deiter and Van Ginkel. So there was Ingold, a possible 3rd Badger, available in the 7th, and as if picking three from one school was illegal or something, Grier chose FB Chandler Cox of Auburn instead. Ingold went undrafted and signed with the Raiders. I was perplexed, flabbergasted, and gobsmacked. Calls to Grier expressing my indignation with his choice were not returned. WTF? Grier didn't appreciate my help? The audacity of the man. Anyway, when free agency rolled around a few years later and the first signing that year by Miami was none of than Alec Ingold, I was very pleased to see Grier had come to his senses. :UP:
 
The Goat said:
The highest paid fullback means very little when there are a total of ten players with that designation in the NFL.

Ingold is making less than $4mm in 2025; he’s making about the same as Kader Kohou. It’s not like there’s a huge investment there.

Additionally, his biggest impact is as a blocker. Do you remember who Tyreek said was the most important player on the offense in 2023? It was Ingold. His value in a 21 formation is difficult to overstate.
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For what he brings to the run game with his blocking relative to what he is paid, he is one of the best value contracts on the roster.
 
Ray R said:
Iron is hard but relatively brittle, as opposed to strong.
Steel is hard also but strong, as opposed to brittle.

RAY is RIGHT, again! - LOL
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You can’t say it like that…you have to say Ray is the opposite of RONG. Come on Ray it’s your thing
 
hoops said:
I’ll take that bet. It’s gonna be a lot worse than most of yall think.

🤝
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So what are the qualifications? Make the playoffs or winning record?

Loser should get a medal. Do it boys
 
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