Mortenson says Andy Reid is on hot seat

[flynryan15]

I'm not saying to turn the cheek but you act like all players are choir boys. What marshall has done has been as bad if not worse- were you on board for getting Marshall?

if he's ever convincted? come on, you are done b/c he isn't producing and hasn't improved the team. He has had police activity around him for years, he's guilty of something but you were ok w/ that b/c you thought he'd be great.

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He's not a good coach? Please list me all the "good" coaches.

No I said he deserved his day in court, especially when you have decorated detectives saying the injuries to the female were self inflicted, a long with evidence of the female in question and her family black mailing Marshall.

I have never once claimed players were choir boys, I have said let them have their day in court and let the legal process happen. Never does though with today media and the rush to be first!

Vick is a scumbag, this wasn't a isolated incident with Vick. This was a life style he lived complete with a luxury estate dedicated to gambling, violence, and torture all bought and paid for by Vick! Do you have a dog Junc? How would you feel if you woke up one morning and your dog was gone? When you went looking for him you find a mangled corpse? Because the likes of Vick decided your dog made a good sparing partner for his prize fighter! That is the reality of Mike Vick that is the quality of human being he is. Not enough for you? Let's say the prize fighter doesn't kill your dog, no worries Vick will just grab the dog by the tail slamming its skull into the concrete until the dog dies! Then it is on to the next prize fighter to finish off your dog!

So yeah **** Andy Reid and his association with Vick for the sake of winning! Karma is a *****, she knocked his fat *** out of the playoffs and she is turning his dream team into a nightmare!

 

[AllFinsAllDay]

You are right Junc TO in his prime was a terrible weapon! Great Vick lead Atl to 1 Championship game. Was is 4 or 5 McNabb lead the Eagles to? McNabb was let go for the same reason Reid will ultimately be let go failing to win the big game! All this Dream Team talk is the death nail! Just like when San Fran bought Steve Young and George Seifret their Superbowl! A team makes that kind of splash in free agency you better win.

Yeah Junc he is a idiot for making Vick his franchise QB! The guy is a coach killer and you might have missed it in his last interview, but is getting very close to a meltdown. Vick isn't a leader he is a sociopath! Google it bed wetting, fire starting, and animal cruelty is the triangle of terror, signs of a sociopath. Normal people don't strap dogs to rape stands, they don't choke dogs, they don't drown dogs, they don't electricute dogs, and they don't steal or adopt weaker innocent dogs with the only purpose of putting them in a cage as a training device to be killed. I spent 2 years running a animal sanctuary in Akron, Oh and I have seen first hand the violence and brutality that is Mike Vick!

I don't give a god damn if Goodell fell weak to Tony Dungy and his agenda! Let's not forget by the by laws of the league and player code of conduct. If a player is found guilty of bank rolling a illegal gambling operation they are ban for LIFE! Vick of his own testimony in Federal Court did just that!

So don't you dare tell me what I deserve because I won't compromise my moral standard for the sake of winning! I would gladly ride out Chad Henne, then bring in the likes of Andy Reid and his lack of moral character for a few extra wins!

Explain to me what does Vick's criminal activties have to do with him playing QB? i bet his teammates accept he did his time and paid an big price and have accepted it. It has nothing to do with anything and for you to associate Reid with vick's activties is absolutley bogus

 

[Tunaphish429]

Explain to me what does Vick's criminal activties have to do with him playing QB? i bet his teammates accept he did his time and paid an big price and have accepted it. It has nothing to do with anything and for you to associate Reid with vick's activties is absolutley bogus

Exactly, I think every person convicted of a crime deserves a 2nd chance..to an extent..Vick plead guilty because most of his friends were blaming everything on him...I dont know exactly what he actually did anyway. He did his time...If your gonna hold that against Vick..well thats fine.. But how can you hold that against Reid?

 

[flynryan15]

Explain to me what does Vick's criminal activties have to do with him playing QB? i bet his teammates accept he did his time and paid an big price and have accepted it. It has nothing to do with anything and for you to associate Reid with vick's activties is absolutley bogus

I speaks to the type of coach and person Reid is! I don't want anyone like that associated with the Dolphins! You have your goals and standards for what you except as a fan and I will have mine! I cam associate Reid with Vick because he went after Vick and signed him! I may hate the trifecta, but atleast they didn't let their desperation for a QB bankrupt their morale standard!

Just watch it play out the Eagles keep losing and Philly fan will turn on Vick! They will boo him and throw **** at him like never before. Then you will see the same old Vick flipping off kids in the stands, and dropping Fbombs at them!

 

[Dolph N.Fan]

Funny how people complain that a coach that only loses in the postseason isn't a good fit for Miami. LOL the Miami fan base would kill to lose (winning a rd or 2 ) in the playoffs every year. Andy Reid would have this team full of playmakers. Get Reid a real franchise QB like Luck and he'll win titles like Belichick too.

 

[nyjunc]

No I said he deserved his day in court, especially when you have decorated detectives saying the injuries to the female were self inflicted, a long with evidence of the female in question and her family black mailing Marshall.

I have never once claimed players were choir boys, I have said let them have their day in court and let the legal process happen. Never does though with today media and the rush to be first!

Vick is a scumbag, this wasn't a isolated incident with Vick. This was a life style he lived complete with a luxury estate dedicated to gambling, violence, and torture all bought and paid for by Vick! Do you have a dog Junc? How would you feel if you woke up one morning and your dog was gone? When you went looking for him you find a mangled corpse? Because the likes of Vick decided your dog made a good sparing partner for his prize fighter! That is the reality of Mike Vick that is the quality of human being he is. Not enough for you? Let's say the prize fighter doesn't kill your dog, no worries Vick will just grab the dog by the tail slamming its skull into the concrete until the dog dies! Then it is on to the next prize fighter to finish off your dog!

So yeah **** Andy Reid and his association with Vick for the sake of winning! Karma is a *****, she knocked his fat *** out of the playoffs and she is turning his dream team into a nightmare!

There have been too many different incidents to assume he is innocent. One maybe? two? 3,4,5,6,7,...? Come on.

I'm against waht Vick did but I find it comical when people treat dogs better than people. You can forgive a guy who beats women but not a guy who abused animals. I'm against everything Vick did but I'm against everything marshall has done and everything Braylon did, etc...

Philly is 1-3 after 4 games, there are 12 reg season games to go. I'd hold off on the karma stuff especially since he led them to a surprise playoff app a year ago.

I speaks to the type of coach and person Reid is! I don't want anyone like that associated with the Dolphins! You have your goals and standards for what you except as a fan and I will have mine! I cam associate Reid with Vick because he went after Vick and signed him! I may hate the trifecta, but atleast they didn't let their desperation for a QB bankrupt their morale standard!

Just watch it play out the Eagles keep losing and Philly fan will turn on Vick! They will boo him and throw **** at him like never before. Then you will see the same old Vick flipping off kids in the stands, and dropping Fbombs at them!

Don Shula had Mercury Morris, did that speak of Don?

Bill parcells & Bill belichick had LT, did that speak about them?

Every team has players like this, coaches are paid to win and if guys can help them win they want them.

 

[foozool13]

I would take Reid in a HEARTBEAT!!!

 

[flynryan15]

There have been too many different incidents to assume he is innocent. One maybe? two? 3,4,5,6,7,...? Come on.

I'm against waht Vick did but I find it comical when people treat dogs better than people. You can forgive a guy who beats women but not a guy who abused animals. I'm against everything Vick did but I'm against everything marshall has done and everything Braylon did, etc...

Philly is 1-3 after 4 games, there are 12 reg season games to go. I'd hold off on the karma stuff especially since he led them to a surprise playoff app a year ago.



Don Shula had Mercury Morris, did that speak of Don?

Bill parcells & Bill belichick had LT, did that speak about them?

Do we really need me to speak my opinion of Parcells? Although in his defense he had ZERO say in play personnel decisions at the Giants. He still is a ****ing scam artist, and a their though!

As far as the incidents, not one lead to a conviction and the majority were either dismissed or charges weren't filed. He is no saint and obviously makes piss poor.decisions both on and off the field. Marshall got his second chance and a new start along with a 50+ million dollar payday. His behavior hasn't changed and his attitude sucks. As far as that woman I feel no putty for her! She continued to put herself in that situation, she sunk to black mail, and when all else failed she cried to the media for a payday! If she hadn't done that then her story might have been believable.

So if Vick physically assaulted a woman would that change your opinion/view/stance? I give you Sonya Elliot! Vick or should I say Ron Mexico arranged a out of court settlement with her for knowingly and wilfully infecting her with herpes. Does that count? Does her ruined life change things?

I challenge you to visit your local Humane Society! Ask to volunteer with dogs recovering from abuse/neglect/fighting. Change their bandages, open their drains, care for their wounds. Look at their injuries tails torn off, noses missing, gashes so wide you can put your hand in them. A defenseless animal enduring unimaginable pain, yet their tail if they have one wags, despite what another human has done to them. Andy Reid rewarded that behavior with a hundred million dollars!

While we are add it you can add Tony Dungy to the list of scumbags! He is actually worse! He bills himself as a good Christian man and yet defends Vick. Now I am the first to tell you religion is a scam of hypocrisy. BUT I do know what the bible claims the lord says about treatment of gods creatures. Shame on you Tony Dungy! Touting yourself as a man of Christ to further your race driven agenda! I mean if it was only gambling and you are out to better ALL Athletes why not go infront of the MLB Commish on Tete Roses behalf? ****ing liar!


Every team has players like this, coaches are paid to win and if guys can help them win they want them.

Crap my phone combined it with Juncs text

 

[fishfanmiami]

There have been too many different incidents to assume he is innocent. One maybe? two? 3,4,5,6,7,...? Come on.

I'm against waht Vick did but I find it comical when people treat dogs better than people. You can forgive a guy who beats women but not a guy who abused animals. I'm against everything Vick did but I'm against everything marshall has done and everything Braylon did, etc...

Philly is 1-3 after 4 games, there are 12 reg season games to go. I'd hold off on the karma stuff especially since he led them to a surprise playoff app a year ago.



Don Shula had Mercury Morris, did that speak of Don?

Bill parcells & Bill belichick had LT, did that speak about them?

Every team has players like this, coaches are paid to win and if guys can help them win they want them.

The fact Jets dude is pushing this agenda makes me say PASS.

 

[nyjunc]

The fact Jets dude is pushing this agenda makes me say PASS.

I'm not saying to get him, I would hate to see it but w/ what Miami has been through for almost 20 years to say you wouldn't want reid's results is a little silly.

 

[Hayden Fox]

Love it. I brought it up earlier in a thread on Sunday night. I would give him the keys personnel decisions and go from there. Could groom a QB too.

 

[HybridPHIN 23]

I'm not saying to get him, I would hate to see it but w/ what Miami has been through for almost 20 years to say you wouldn't want reid's results is a little silly.

The question is do you want andy reid as the dolphins coach in 2012. Whatever he did a decade ago is irrelevant now. To assume your going to get the same results is extremely silly. In my opinion he's a glorified OC, who's being exposed without a guy like Jim Johnson running the other half of the team. He lacks true leadership qualities. Definitely pass on Reid as a HC. We need a Leader, or atleast an offensive mind that knows how to get 1 or 2 tough yards when you need them.

What dolphin fan wouldn't want him ? One knowledgeable on the subject, that hasnt been brainwashed by the media, perhaps ?

 

[NJDOLPHAN76]

Come on down!

 

[nyjunc]

The question is do you want andy reid as the dolphins coach in 2012. Whatever he did a decade ago is irrelevant now. To assume your going to get the same results is extremely silly. In my opinion he's a glorified OC, who's being exposed without a guy like Jim Johnson running the other half of the team. He lacks true leadership qualities. Definitely pass on Reid as a HC. We need a Leader, or atleast an offensive mind that knows how to get 1 or 2 tough yards when you need them.

What dolphin fan wouldn't want him ? One knowledgeable on the subject, that hasnt been brainwashed by the media, perhaps ?

he led Philly to the playoffs each of the last 2 years w/o JimJohnson.

Brainwashed by the media? The proof is in the record. he took over a franchise that was 3-13 the year before he took over and a 6 win team the year before that. he's been Philly's coach for 12 years and has won double digit games 8 of those years, has led Philly to 9 postseasons, has led Philly to 6 div titles, 10 playoff wins, 5 title games, 1 SB while in the same timeframe Miami has 2 playoff wins, zero title games and hasn't won a playoff game since dec of 2000.

 

[HybridPHIN 23]

your always preaching the past, and how it was in past years..... get with it bud ! You say "the proof is in the record" .... Hello, McFly ? He's about to go 1-5 with the so called dreamteam.... can you defend that ?

If he was the jets coach, you certainly wouldnt be singing his praises like this. Eagles fans are fed up and would pay you to take him.

We want to win a superbowl, like any other team. Hiring a coach that almost got a ring 10 years ago isnt the slam dunk yall are making it out to be. Sure its an upgrade from Sparano, and our offense would indeed improve over time. But is that enough ? This is miami, and we have to fight it out with teams in the north east. We need a Saban or a coughlin type, to maintain a blue-collar work ethic. I think thats why cowher is being talked about so much.