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Most overrated player ever!

F150&Dolfan said:
If Brady's so overrated, name 5 active QB's you would take over him??????

My thought exactly. As I stated before, I hate the SOB, but you can't argue with results.
 
silverloop13 said:
Im kinda blown away.
Montana over rated? Have you even seen him play? Did you ever see him play at all?? The guy was a surgeon. He was an MVP before he even had Rice so please dont give me that one. The only reason the system he was in worked is bc he was the perfect QB for it. Mobile, quick thinking , accurate as hell. You couldnt rattle the guy.....he was ice.
Do not agree.. Montana was a good QB in a great system. That same system made Elvis & Bono look great and gave them starting positions on other teams because of it. Ryan Leaf could have strived in that system.
 
phinfan37 said:
Do not agree.. Montana was a good QB in a great system. That same system made Elvis & Bono look great and gave them starting positions on other teams because of it. Ryan Leaf could have strived in that system.

I agree w/your comment to a certain extent (Leaf would fail anywhere/anytime). Granted, Bono and Elvis did thrive in that system but Montana brought it to a whole new level. His pocket presence, ability to look off LB's and safeties, and reading the defense was almost unparrelled (imo)
 
PhinDude88 said:
I don't see how people can say that Vick is overrated. Just because he doesn't put up great passing #'s doesn't mean that he isn't a good QB. He wins games with his feet and he can win some with his arm. He should be better this year overall.

I think that Brady is overrated because nobody gives there WR's any credit at all. He only does good because of how the system is set. You may bash me, but that is just how i feel. But like somebody else said eariler, i def would want Brady when it's clutch time.

For Vick, its because the media fawns over him. he has amazing athletic ability, but at this point in his career as a passer his just average.

Brady: i remember watching one of those NFL challenge shows that pitted the AFC against the NFC and an NFC player said something like, "well we lost this round cause those patriot recievers always catch everthing."

im not sure if hes overrated cause i hate the media and those they love. He has great coaching, great decision making, and has a stronger arm than people think
 
Do not agree.. Montana was a good QB in a great system. That same system made Elvis & Bono look great and gave them starting positions on other teams because of it. Ryan Leaf could have strived in that system.

:Shakes head in disbelief at what he just read.
 
GRAPEAPE said:
I always beleived that Emmitt smith was overrated Dallas had probably hte best offensive line ever assembled for 6-7 years. and yes I realize he is the career rushing leader and a hall-o-famer. He was a excellent player not the best RB ever.


Currently playing: Warren sapp also gets my vote, Big slob with a bigger mouth, and possibly even a bigger ego. Getting paid 5 mil. a year to make his 14-20 tackles gimme a break!

For the perpetual "anyone could have run behind that OL" argument against Emmitt, I like to point to his '98 and particularly his '99 season. No healthy Erik Williams playing then, a past-his-prime and overweight Nate Newton, no Tunei, Gesek, Gogan, or Donaldson by then either, yet he puts up back-to-back seasons of almost 1400 yards apiece. That's with the likes of Everett McIver and Clay Shiver blocking for him. And in '99 he does it in 13 1/2 games, not 16, and with the Cowboys down to their 4th and 5th string receivers as starters towards the latter half of the season.

There was also a reciprocal effect with Emmitt and his O-lines. People also forget Smith made his linemen look real good too. Newton, Tunei, and Gogan had all played under Landry and looked pretty average back in those days, but they became Pro Bowlers when Emmitt started running behind them.
 
Most overrated easily Ray Lewis of course he is a great player but people act like he is this great leader that just wills his team to victory like the defense has no other talented players. I just think its an example of another player that talks alot of smack and they give the one player all the credit for the team playing good defense.

Although I could easily agree on player not currently in NFL that was most overrated being JOe Namath. Probably only guy in hall of fame with more interceptions than Td's. If a QB or other player of prominance is on a Super Bowl team they always seem to get quite overrated plus his guarantee in the Super Bowl where a player has a bout a 50% chance of being right and we never remember the predictions that don't come true. I mean if the Jets lost would we think he sucked just because of the prediction.
 
phinfan37 said:
Do not agree.. Montana was a good QB in a great system. That same system made Elvis & Bono look great and gave them starting positions on other teams because of it. Ryan Leaf could have strived in that system.

Joe Montana and Ryan leaf in the same sentence? :shakeno:
 
phinfan37 said:
Do not agree.. Montana was a good QB in a great system. That same system made Elvis & Bono look great and gave them starting positions on other teams because of it. Ryan Leaf could have strived in that system.

I doubt it. Mainly because its refrikindiculous.
 
I believe Bill Walsh said it best. "Montana was the product of a system. Marino was the system."

Edit: How else do you explain all the quarterbacks they have had? I don't think any franchise is that lucky to get that many good qb's. Every qb above Marino in lifetime rating is from a west coast offense. Marino had to earn his not just pass it off and depend on his receivers to get YAC.
 
ercin13 said:
jim kelly
i'd like to have a brand new shiny ... unwrapped jim kelly ready to gear up for the season. think about it: aj, gus or jim kelly.

over-rated? Eli Manning
 
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