Nat Moore Talks Receivers

[Gonzo]

I cleared up the thread title a bit. :hi5:

 

[Geforce]

2 15 yard penalties? Besides the one time I said, where was another instance he threw his QB under bus?

You don't throw an elite WR away for nothing. He didn't disappear in many games at all....and he was a no doubt 1000 yard 80 reception WR yearly, something we haven't had in 2 decades.

Let's see how effective our terrible WR core is without BM getting double teamed.

Marshall threw Henne under the bus many times during games and even said he preferred Tyler Thigpen to Henne because Thigpen wasn't as mechanical as Chad was or understood how to throw the ball to big receivers.

Every team T.O. was on threw him away for nothing and Marshall had many games where he had four receptions or less than 50 yards receiving because he wasn't involved in the game early.

If you watched the games last year, you will see too many times when Matt Moore would be looking for Marshall to the detriment of the offense. Moore took a lot of sacks last year waiting for Marshall to get open instead of dumping it off to Bush, Bess or just throwing the ball away.

Marshall will no doubt be missed but I can understand why Philbin and/or Ireland thinks it was in the best interest of the team to move on from him.

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I cleared up the thread title a bit. :hi5:

Thanks.

 

[NYinBostonFin]

Marshall threw Henne under the bus many times during games and even said he preferred Tyler Thigpen to Henne because Thigpen wasn't as mechanical as Chad was or understood how to throw the ball to big receivers.

Every team T.O. was on threw him away for nothing and Marshall had many games where he had four receptions or less than 50 yards receiving because he wasn't involved in the game early.

If you watched the games last year, you will see too many times when Matt Moore would be looking for Marshall to the detriment of the offense. Moore took a lot of sacks last year waiting for Marshall to get open instead of dumping it off to Bush, Bess or just throwing the ball away.

Marshall will no doubt be missed but I can understand why Philbin and/or Ireland thinks it was in the best interest of the team to move on from him.

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Thanks.

Fasano was worse to Henne than anyone...he's still here....Bush said the whole team stunk, now he's a captain.
BM was not TO. Stop comparing them just because someone in the media labeled him as baby TO.

Still was over 1200 yards with our terrible QB situation, not to mention getting no release of pressure from the other WRs. Now you are taking it out on BM because he was Moore's go to guy? Maybe if someone stepped up, it wouldn't have been such a detriment. lol

If you think 50 or less is bad for a couple of games, I wouldn't watch next season if I were you. We are in huge trouble in the passing game when Bush is going to be our #1 wr.

 

[ebozzz]

Fasano was worse to Henne than anyone...he's still here....Bush said the whole team stunk, now he's a captain.

In what way was Fasano worse? That's something maybe I missed....

Bush said that the team, collectively, stunk. That included himself. IMO, he kinda had a good point. Brandon actually targeted specific individuals. That sort of thing tends to have more a of negative impact...

 

[NYinBostonFin]

In what way was Fasano worse? That's something maybe I missed....

Bush said that the team, collectively, stunk. That included him. IMO, he kinda had a good point. Brandon actually targeted specific individuals. That sort of thing tends to have more a of negative impact...

Maybe you missed the game Fasano made a scene on the field and on the sidelines visibly angry and yelling at Henne, never saw BM do it to any QB.

Y. Bell didn't think it was such a great point at the time when Bush said it and I'm sure if BM said it he would be burned at the stake by now. But its Bush, so its ok? Whatever, don't know what he will say when we start playing poorly this season.

BM never came out to media except after ProBowl from what I heard. Maybe youhave some links to these "targets" you speak of. I really don't remember. And as for after the probowl he was just saying what the FO and all of us have been saying for years.

 

[ebozzz]

Maybe you missed the game Fasano made a scene on the field and on the sidelines visibly angry and yelling at Henne, never saw BM do it to any QB.

I don't remember anything between Brandon and Moore on the sidelines. Although, there was an episode between Marshall and Henne. Since I missed the Fasano thing, I can't really compare the severity.

Y. Bell didn't think it was such a great point at the time when Bush said it and I'm sure if BM said it he would be burned at the stake by now. But its Bush, so its ok? Whatever, don't know what he will say when we start playing poorly this season.

I knew that was coming. :D Bell did take offense to Bush's statement but was what Bush said true? Was he implying that the TEAM as a whole was a problem? Not that it couldn't be fixed but at that point they had issues....

BM never came out to media except after ProBowl from what I heard. Maybe youhave some links to these "targets" you speak of. I really don't remember. And as for after the probowl he was just saying what the FO and all of us have been saying for years.

The statement that Brandon made comparing Henne & Thigpen wasn't after the Pro Bowl if I am not mistaken....

 

[Geforce]

Fasano was worse to Henne than anyone...he's still here....Bush said the whole team stunk, now he's a captain.

Wait a minute...you think the one incindent Fasano had during one game is worse that what Marshall has done during his two years in Miami? Talk about a stretch.

BM was not TO. Stop comparing them just because someone in the media labeled him as baby TO.

When Marshall stop throwing his QBs under the bus, then I'll stop calling him Baby T.O.

Still was over 1200 yards with our terrible QB situation, not to mention getting no release of pressure from the other WRs. Now you are taking it out on BM because he was Moore's go to guy? Maybe if someone stepped up, it wouldn't have been such a detriment. lol

If you think 50 or less is bad for a couple of games, I wouldn't watch next season if I were you. We are in huge trouble in the passing game when Bush is going to be our #1 wr.

I'm not taking anything out on Marshall because he was Moore's go to guy. There is a reason Bess had his worse season since his rookie year. Moore would look for Marshall first and wouldn't look anywhere else until it was often too late.

 

[NYinBostonFin]

Wait a minute...you think the one incindent Fasano had during one game is worse that what Marshall has done during his two years in Miami? Talk about a stretch.

When Marshall stop throwing his QBs under the bus, then I'll stop calling him Baby T.O.


I'm not taking anything out on Marshall because he was Moore's go to guy. There is a reason Bess had his worse season since his rookie year. Moore would look for Marshall first and wouldn't look anywhere else until it was often too late.

Links please to anything besides the probowl comments with BM causing problems with Moore. Anything. I don't remember anything worse than Fasano with Henne.

 

[NYinBostonFin]

I don't remember anything between Brandon and Moore on the sidelines. Although, there was an episode between Marshall and Henne. Since I missed the Fasano thing, I can't really compare the severity.



I knew that was coming. :D Bell did take offense to Bush's statement but was what Bush said true? Was he implying that the TEAM as a whole was a problem? Not that it couldn't be fixed but at that point they had issues....



The statement that Brandon made comparing Henne & Thigpen wasn't after the Pro Bowl if I am not mistaken....

If you didn't see the Fasano thing, you can't compare it. But it was ridiculous, especially because it was a time that Henne was struggling. Not something that was needed at the time. I don't remember anything significant happening between Henne and BM, but I may not have seen.

Do you really want to make a comment about what Bush saying being true, so it's ok? That would be my BM defense on anything he has said about our QBs then.

 

[2413fanphins]

more of the same bs... brandon marshall is a big cancer, bad team mate and no links to prove any teammate ever said such a thing.


99% of finheaven has thrown henne under the bus. he's gone now, mostly because (as much as I liked him).. frankly, he's ****ing garbage.

for some reason people have a problem on here with players stating facts. brandon marshall wanting a probowl qb, is not a problem, it's a great idea...

I wish it was an idea shared by our front office... but it's not.

I have no idea where the marshall disappears comments come from. I would venture a guess he led the team in receiving yards, and receptions in 90% of the games he played here. probably not far behind on tds either, even with the low number he put up.
I am patiently waiting to see what we burn that extra third rounder on this year, because if they don't put up 85 catches and 1000 yards and 5 tds, we dropped the ball.

 

[metalman32060]

What's laughable? Philbin stessing the word teammate or the Packers offense stressing the best play concept?

NYinBostonFin's contempt for everything Dolphin

 

[ebozzz]

If you didn't see the Fasano thing, you can't compare it. But it was ridiculous, especially because it was a time that Henne was struggling. Not something that was needed at the time. I don't remember anything significant happening between Henne and BM, but I may not have seen.

There were also some incidents on the sidelines between Marshall and Henne. Again, I can't say that they were worse than the one with Fasano since I didn't see it but there were a few. Pennington actually got involved in one. Brandon was upset that he had not been targeted on a play and complained to Henne about it on the sidelines. Henne basically just walked away. Then Marshall started a conversation with Penny about it. Penny asked him, "Were you open?" To which Brandon answered, "Well, no." So Penny just basically told him to get over it and play.

It's really not that important to me so I'm not gonna try to look up links. You can believe it or not. Your choice. ....:D

Do you really want to make a comment about what Bush saying being true, so it's ok? That would be my BM defense on anything he has said about our QBs then.

That wasn't all that I said. I also stated that he targeted the entire team which of course included himself. He didn't say that everyone else on the team stinks but I smell like a rose garden. He said that we stink. He didn't call out Bell or anyone else in particular. Therefore, I think that has a tendency to not be as severe as pointing the finger at one person. That's what I meant and for those reasons, I don't feel that it's a fair comparison (Bush & Marshall). Bottom line though is that Bush is still on the team and his role is probably going to be increased based a few articles that I have read. B. Marsh was traded away for less than his value. What does that tell you? Just asking....

 

[ebozzz]

for some reason people have a problem on here with players stating facts. brandon marshall wanting a probowl qb, is not a problem, it's a great idea...

I wish it was an idea shared by our front office... but it's not.

I don't think that it's a problem to state the facts but I do feel that there is a certain way to go about doing that. Marshall kind of crossed the line with some of his statements of fact regardless of how true they might have been. As to your thoughts about the front office not wanting a Pro Bowl QB, that is just not true....

 

[Geforce]

Brandon Marshall Throws Chad Henne Under the Bus

Links please to anything besides the probowl comments with BM causing problems with Moore. Anything. I don't remember anything worse than Fasano with Henne.

If you are looking for a lot of public comments you are not going to find them. Just as with the Fasano, most of what happened was during the games. In fact, Henne and Marshall's relationship was so bad at the end of the 2010 season that they avoided each other on the sideline.

Henne talked about some of the issues he had with Marshall.
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...o-be-the-starting-quarterback.html#more-13069

-on the relationship with Brandon Marshall:
“Yeah, I mean we had our ups and downs last year. And some not-so friendly exchanged words but we’ve talked in the off-season. I’ve been sending him some of the playbooks so he can pick up on that because he’s been bouncing around with some of the things that have gone on in the past. But he’s still a good guy, he just speaks up sometimes when you don’t want him to. But he’s a great player and you definitely want him on your side.”

Here is two links to one of the public statements Marshall did make. Brian Hartline echoed much of what Marshall said but Hartline didn't mention Henne by name. http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...n-their-issues-with-chad-henne-and-david-lee/

http://helmetandpadsrequired.com/brandon-marshall-throws-chad-henne-under-the-bus/

But Marshall said that Henne and quarterbacks coach David Lee were never willing to improvise plays at the line of scrimmage, and when Marshall did, they would get upset with him on the sideline.

“Henne, the way he plays the game is he goes exactly through his reads, no matter the matchup,” Marshall said. “Then you get to the sideline, and it’s some conflict there because they don’t like it (changing routes on the fly).

On another note, something Ricky Williams said after the 2010 season must have really hit home with Marshall because he agreed with him.

But Marshall said he wasn’t upset with Williams’ comments about him, Williams said Marshall “makes it difficult to like him and support him” when he takes his gripes public, which he did in the last couple of weeks about Henne.

“It’s not necessarily what he says, it’s when he says it and the way he says it,” Williams said.

“I agree,” Marshall said. “That’s where I need to grow and what I need to work on this offseason. … Just picking the right time to say things and how to say it.”

 

[X-Pacolypse]

OK, putting this thread back on topic. While there is a chance that Wallace and Marlon Moore could be surprise contributers, don't be surprised if Miami comes out of the draft with at least two WR's.