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CANDolphan said:
He never said "Fact". He said "what appears to be", so not sure why you're making up a strawman argument here. Your entire post is just a made up reason to grab attention - you yourself collapse your own premise within the post itself... justifying Griers actions and highlighting the wild nature of the trade.

Oh I do. Because you're posting silly things because you didn't get a single night of excitement. This entire post stinks of a child not getting his immediate satisfaction with a nice new name. The FIRST ROUND is over, thats it. There's still 2-7 and OH YEAH WEVE GOT MULTIPLE PICKS IN THE FIRST NEXT YEAR.

Name another year we've gone without a first rounder? Not under Grier. And this will be.. what.. the THIRD time we've had multiple 1s under him? If someone does something multiple times and they do something else ONCE... are we going to forever say they're trending with the action they did one time?
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CANDolphan said:
He never said "Fact". He said "what appears to be", so not sure why you're making up a strawman argument here. Your entire post is just a made up reason to grab attention - you yourself collapse your own premise within the post itself... justifying Griers actions and highlighting the wild nature of the trade.

Oh I do. Because you're posting silly things because you didn't get a single night of excitement. This entire post stinks of a child not getting his immediate satisfaction with a nice new name. The FIRST ROUND is over, thats it. There's still 2-7 and OH YEAH WEVE GOT MULTIPLE PICKS IN THE FIRST NEXT YEAR.

Name another year we've gone without a first rounder? Not under Grier. And this will be.. what.. the THIRD time we've had multiple 1s under him? If someone does something multiple times and they do something else ONCE... are we going to forever say they're trending with the action they did one time?
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The fact that that it is an opinion takes away any credibility that it didn't matter if we didn't have picks in this draft.


Secondly, I stand by what I said. Grier is bad at drafting, drafting is important, we should have draft picks in all drafts in the future, and have someone other than Grier making the picks.


Not sure what is so crazy about that to understand. More over, for no one to argue against those facts, and tommereñy.attack my character lets me know I am on to something.

I am not mad that FH, a group that historically thinks as a group and belittles any differing opinion, is up in arms that I prefer we have a draft.
 
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Blake the great said:
we had a draft not too long ago where we had 5 picks in the first two rounds and look at what it got us....Tua and Robert Hunt? Draft picks are overrated.
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That is Chris Grier problem, not a having a draft picks problems. We shouldn't evade the draft because our GM sucks at drafting. Which was my point to begin with but what do I know I am borderline mentally incapacitated over here according to the FH faithful.
 
BennySwella said:
Austin Jackson, Noah Igbonoghone, Liam Eichenberg, Michael Dieter
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I’ll raise you, Waddle, Phillips, and Holland. The reality is the Dolphins and Grier had the best draft in 2021 and Eichenberg and Long still could end up being productive players in the NFL.

While I agree Iggy wasn’t a good first round pick. Knocking Grier for the Jackson pick is ridiculous. Prior to the 2020 draft, every mock draft had Jackson going in the middle of the first round of the draft. In fact the Dolphins selected him in the range most experts expected him to be selected.

Dieter was projected as a 2nd round pick in the 2019 draft and the Dolphins were able to draft him in the third round.

Saying Grier is a bad GM because he has has some bad picks in the draft is ridiculous. Every single GM in the history of the NFL has had bad picks in the first round and every other round at one time or another. Personally I was never a big Grier fan and I wanted him replaced when Gase was fired. Yet I give him credit for how well he has done in rebuilding this team after having the worst roster in the league during the 2019 season.
 
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BennySwella said:
That is Chris Grier problem, not a having a draft picks problems. We shouldn't evade the draft because our GM sucks at drafting. Which was my point to begin with but what do I know I am borderline mentally incapacitated over here according to the FH faithful.
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Im all ears if you can find a GM that hits on majority of draft picks
 
circumstances said:
everyone misses, but Deiter was a third round pick and is currently our starting Center.

Eich was a rookie Right Tackle, trying to play all last season horribly miscast at Left Tackle.

No argument at this point on Iggy and AJ!
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This were just some but I will entertain your points. Dieter was a bad 3rd rd pick, and is still on the team as the starting Center, you claim that is a good thing, he overachieved in your eyes, I think that is a bad thing, our **** up GM can't even fix the C position years after drafting an obvious underperformer and attempting to fix it several times the subsequent years after.
 
its ok to say you were a little bored and didnt have the same excitement waiting for our pick but realistically we wouldnt have drafted anyone at #29 that is even close to the difference maker that Tyfreak Hill is.

I hope we trade our 2023 draft picks too if it means we can land another all pro talent, we have only drafted one all pro player in the last 20+ years.
 
Blake the great said:
its ok to say you were a little bored and didnt have the same excitement waiting for our pick but realistically we wouldnt have drafted anyone at #29 that is even close to the difference maker that Tyfreak Hill is.

I hope we trade our 2023 draft picks too if it means we can land another all pro talent, we have only drafted one all pro player in the last 20+ years.
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I said something similar. I said this was the only draft this would be acceptable in, as another trade like this one won't come around, so moving forward we should have picks in every draft
 
BennySwella said:
This were just some but I will entertain your points. Dieter was a bad 3rd rd pick, and is still on the team as the starting Center, you claim that is a good thing, he overachieved in your eyes, I think that is a bad thing, our **** up GM can't even fix the C position years after drafting an obvious underperformer and attempting to fix it several times the subsequent years after.
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i think Deiter played fine last year in his first season at Center, and i expect him to be even better this year.

it's not a home run like a Jevon Holland, but it's not a good example to demonstrate someone is bad at drafting.
 
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