New NFL Domestic Violence Policy

[j-off-her-doll]

Nothing but a desperate PR ploy by the grand hack, Rodge Goody.

 

[finfan54]

Does not matter, the new policy clearly states if you are a two time offender, your done...I would agree with you if he just had a 2nd offense and this policy came out now.

Ray can read, and Ray is smart enough to know that he has already a black mark on his record, next one will be #2, and he will be gone.

This is not a game like basketball, where the NFL said, hey, we are giving you a free slate, so you have foul to give, so if you do hit your wife again , you will not get the severest penalty until the next time. Does not matter if he is getting 0, 1, or 10 game suspension this time, this is his 1st offense, and if Ray messes up again...bye bye

before I said what I said, I already thought about what you said. my next thought was a lawyer(s) would sue the nfl based on this...but in the court of public opine we would all say bye bye. so I agree.

that said does domestic dispute count against marshall when his wife stabbed him? what really went on their 4 marshall to get stabbed? grey area 4 sure.

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Now they're saying its felony domestic violence, and other 49ers were present.........wow.

jonathan martin? lol

 

[Dolphin North]

I have no problem with the fine but I may have a problem with when they give the fine. Don't paint every situation the same. There is a difference between an abuser and incidents. Big difference and iv seen it first hand. Let the law short it out first.

Sorry jfleag it's totally irresponsible and irrational to connect a push or a shove to an abuse. Getting into a fight with a woman do not make you an abuser, a lot of those situations is not a simple walk away. If you think it is that simple with some woman then you never been in that situation to even speak on it. I never hit on a woman but I have been in situation where I had to grab restrain and push a woman to try and run away. An ex when I was 19 punch me in the face unexpectedly when I broke up with her, and once she seen I didn't fight back she went punching and scratching telling me I better not leave her. I had to restrain her and push her to the bed just get a head start run to the door.

Iv seen a friend fiancé stab him because he was talking crap and she still having built up anger from him cheating. I had to restrain her and calm her down. They went on to forgive and got married.

I hope you guys know ray rice wife was arrested that night. There were rumors at the time that customers who seen the start of the incident, saying she was attacking him in the casino. If she got arrested after being knocked out there a good chance she was the aggressor and the one doing the assault. Yes both made bad mistakes but all scuffles between a man and woman is horrible, but it is no way equivalent to situation where a man is an abuser.

Even thou Ray Rice made a horrible mistake, I respect that instead of trying to convince you guys that he may have not done what you think of him, he kept it private by accepting blame for whatever you claim of him and moved on. Because he does not owe you to prove you nothing, he only owes his wife and family and the law the truth. Sorry for what you all had to witness, now he works out the truth in private.

He could of put his career first but chose his wife first. Not all of us have the guts to do that. Some of you and not most of you would left your wife and running to the fans to tell your side of the story for fans approval.

I know this is not going to change some of your minds because you look at things black and white. But iv seen much to know it's not, iv seen false rape accusations first hand because her boyfriend found out she slept with his homeboy. Be very careful because one day you may be put in that position that paint u in a bad light.

Dude, who in the heck are you hangin' out with?

 

[Markcalius]

I had to restrain her and push her to the bed just get a head start run to the door.

Iv seen a friend fiancé stab him because he was talking crap and she still having built up anger from him cheating. I had to restrain her and calm her down. They went on to forgive and got married.

Sounds like a bullet for the CV, if you ask me.

"Proven restrainer: Consistently demonstrates the ability and situational awareness to restrain women from carrying out homicidal intent."

 

[Spesh]

Let me preface this by saying: i am completely on board with this punishment. Its beyond fair. As others have said(and Patrick Batman's comparison was pretty much spot on in my opinion), while a man has a right to work he does not have a right to work wherever he wants. Making millions of dollars to play a game is a privilege. If players decide to break the law, they forfeit that privilege. The league is essentially giving players a mulligan if something happens. Doing something once is a mistake, twice is a pattern. I cant imagine a scenario in which you have to beat a defenseless woman(or man), much less twice.

As well, i dont think anyone is advocating provably innocent people getting banned for life. The league usually lets the legal system go first and then they let their own system go through. Both environments have an appeal system built into it. A player would have to lose a case, lose the appeal, lose the NFL review, lose the NFL appeal, get involved in another arrest, lose the case, lose the appeal, lose the NFL review, and lose the NFL appeal before being banned for life. Honestly, what are the chances of that happening to someone who is completely innocent? Extremely unlikely. And if it were to occur, the player could later sue the league.

All of that said, heres something to consider: fighting in general. Why shouldnt the league slap down players who pull, shall we say, a Maurkice Pouncey and get into a brawl in a bar? Im not going to suggest the punishment be the same as domestic violence, but there should be a severe penalty if they were at fault. Off the top of my head, id be comfortable with a 4 game suspension. Goodell isnt making this change out of the goodness of his heart, hes doing it because he alienated a growing chunk of his consumer base. Given that motivation, the focus should be on the entire public and not just domestic relationships. Start threatening peoples livelihoods and players desire to party until 5 in the morning should wan. And that could only be considered a plus.

Moving on:

Iv seen a friend fiancé stab him because he was talking crap and she still having built up anger from him cheating. I had to restrain her and calm her down. They went on to forgive and got married.

Your post is horrifying, but i felt the need to quote this part specifically. You do realize what you described is domestic assault, correct? Just because a woman did the stabbing doesnt make it less of a crime. She shouldnt have been "calmed down", she should have been arrested. As well, while i try and avoid commenting on other peoples relationships, a good general rule for everyone to follow is: never commit to someone who tried to stab you. Under no circumstances is that acceptable. The minute your partner threatens you with harm, that relationship is over.

Goonboss made this comment offhand and its quickly becoming one of my favorite quotes on here: its not hard to avoid trouble if thats your goal. You might consider new friends.

 

[Spesh]

http://www.thedrawplay.com/comic/new-nfl-policy/

 

[Sons Of Shula]

http://www.thedrawplay.com/comic/new-nfl-policy/

I don't agree one bit with the NFL's marijuana policy and I loathe Roger Gotohell, but some of the CBA bargaining agreement displeasures have to be placed upon NFLA president Eric Winston and Executive Director DeMaurice Smith as well.

 

[whizafriz]

a lifetime ban may seem excessive, but it will certainly clean up the NFL for guys not learning from their mistakes. Nobody needs guys on their team who can't learn and grow.

 

[andyahs]

a lifetime ban may seem excessive, but it will certainly clean up the NFL for guys not learning from their mistakes. Nobody needs guys on their team who can't learn and grow.

It's not the least bit excessive but it is long overdue.

 

[Spesh]

I don't agree one bit with the NFL's marijuana policy and I loathe Roger Gotohell, but some of the CBA bargaining agreement displeasures have to be placed upon NFLA president Eric Winston and Executive Director DeMaurice Smith as well.

The punishment policy was a complete non-starter. As i recall it, Goodell wouldnt even entertain the notion of adjusting it during the negotiation. He's made "protecting the shield" a pillar of his tenure as commissioner, he was absolutely willing to let the lockout stretch into the season if the players didnt drop that point. I agree that the NFLPA does share the blame for agreeing to a part of a deal that doesnt necessarily serve in their best interest, but i cant blame them for giving it up. It was, after all, a negotiation.
As well, its important to keep in mind Bountygate was being investigated at that point, given the way Goodell tried to embarrass the players with that issue its obvious why he refused to budge on disciplinary issues. Well, that was one of the reasons anyways. I imagine that entire "having all the power" thing was pretty compelling.

Goodell has the ability to change these ruling pretty much at his own discretion. Even if he didnt want to change the weed policy completely, he could have approved Gordon's appeal...or even parts of it(limiting the suspension to a few games instead of a year). As i stated earlier, Goodell isnt changing the rules out of the goodness of his heart. If he were, these changes would have occurred long ago. Hes only doing it now because Rice's assault was caught on camera and Goodell has been slapped around by the public. Hes alienated an chunk of his consumer base and is trying to ease the tension. This is a PR move, and i have no qualms about people pointing out how laughable his logic is.

That said, i didnt have a message behind linking the comic. It got a chuckle from me so i decided to throw it up.

Also Eric Winston was elected President this past March. Kevin Mawae was President during the lockout. Domonique Foxworth was President in between those two.

 

[Dolphin North]

Moving on:

Originally Posted by twix2500 View Post
Iv seen a friend fiancé stab him because he was talking crap and she still having built up anger from him cheating. I had to restrain her and calm her down. They went on to forgive and got married.

Your post is horrifying, but i felt the need to quote this part specifically. You do realize what you described is domestic assault, correct? Just because a woman did the stabbing doesnt make it less of a crime. She shouldnt have been "calmed down", she should have been arrested. As well, while i try and avoid commenting on other peoples relationships, a good general rule for everyone to follow is: never commit to someone who tried to stab you. Under no circumstances is that acceptable. The minute your partner threatens you with harm, that relationship is over.

Goonboss made this comment offhand and its quickly becoming one of my favorite quotes on here: its not hard to avoid trouble if thats your goal. You might consider new friends.

Also, never cheat on somebody, or marry or stab a person for cheating on you, let alone both. I'd say leave the cheater, and thank the person they cheated with for exposing them for what they are.