NFL combine update

[canesandphins1]

Does anyone have the official height and weight of the first 2 days of the combine

 

[akfinfan]

No, but then again it doesn't really matter much. I hate the combine. It doesn't prove anything and I think it's a waste of time. Football is a team sport and showcasing speed, jumping for vertical, and doing other INDIVIDUAL skills workouts without full pads proves NOTHING about how you will play with 10 other teammates on the field playing against 11 opponents. The media has overhyped the combine, and sadly enough it has become a major factor on draft positioning.

 

[LIQUID24]

I hate people who hate the combine. It's one of the many tools teams use to evaluate players.

 

[Noland]

You need to evaulate players on what they do in a game.

 

[LIQUID24]

Originally posted by Noland
You need to evaulate players on what they do in a game.

Of course, and it STILL is the main form of evaluating players, but you can't tell me the combine is worthless. Size, speed and strenght ARE important, maybe not as important as watching a player on film, but still important.

 

[Muck]

It's not a waste of time. Rick Speilman certainly doesn't feel it's a waste of time. And I don't think it has anything to do with media attention. He dislikes the fact that so many guys don't show up.

The Combine makes or breaks alot of guys as far as draft status. It literally can make millions for a guy. Not to mention gives teams an up close and personal view of a guy in unfamiliar territory. You get to see how he performs in those kinds of circumstances.

Remember, everything has it's place. Game film has it's place. Individual workouts have their place. It's up to you, the personnel man, to put the proper amount of emphasis on each component.

 

[SMadison29]

Here's the olineman:
*note: if there is no bench # they aren't lifting until tomorrow(Saturday) because they didn't get back from their MRI's in time.

Full Name School Ht Wt Bench
Stacy Andrews Mississippi 6061 342 34
Shawn Andrews Arkansas 6041 366 27
Sean Bubin Illinois 6064 306
Kelly Butler Purdue 6073 320
Marko Cavka Sacramento State 6071 294 27
Tyson Clabo Wake Forest 6-6.5 315
Nat Dorsey Georgia Tech 6070 322
Robert Gallery Iowa 6071 323 25
Adrian Jones Kansas 6042 296 27
Carlos Joseph Miami-Fl 6057 345
Brad Lekkerkerker Cal-Davis 6070 317
Dylan McFarland Montana 6057 304 31
Jim Molinaro Notre Dame 6057 308 21
Shane Olivea Ohio State 6027 302 NL
Jacob Rogers USC 6061 307 30
Jake Scott Idaho 6047 281
Max Starks Florida 6070 350
Drew Strojny Duke 6071 327 NL
Travelle Wharton South Carolina 6035 312 NL
Mark Wilson California 6066 314 24

Combine Official Ht/Wt/Bench: Guards

Full Name School Ht Wt Bench
Jacob Bell Miami-Oh 6046 302 26
Vernon Carey Miami-Fl 6043 335
Kirk Chambers Stanford 6072 313 22
Quinn Christensen BYU 6057 312
Adrien Clarke Ohio State 6050 329 NL
Regis Crawford Arizona State 6020 316 NL
Trey Darilek UTEP 6040 301
Khiawatha Downey Indiana-Pa 6041 332
Antonio Hall Kentucky 6033 317 27
Joseph Hayes San Jose State 6043 311 18
Anthony Herrera Tennessee 6020 315
Sean Locklear North Carolina State 6040 308 27
Tony Pape Michigan 6061 323 26
Josh Parrish Washington State 6057 330 21
Stephen Peterman LSU 6040 312 23
Alan Reuber Texas A&M 6062 323 26
Brian Rimpf East Carolina 6055 319 31
Justin Smiley Alabama 6032 298 NL
Chris Snee Boston College 6026 314 29
Shannon Snell Florida 6043 316 21
Jeb Terry North Carolina 6052 313 27

Combine Official Ht/Wt/Bench: Centers

Full Name School Ht Wt Bench
Toby Cecil Texas Tech 6040 297 19
Jake Grove Virginia Tech 6033 303
Rex Hadnot Houston 6021 323 27
Nick Hardwick Purdue 6034 295
Scott Jackson BYU 6041 300 28
Nick Leckey Kansas State 6027 290 18
Josh Sewell Nebraska 6015 301 30
Kurt Sigler Eastern Washington 6045 306
Alex Stepanovich Ohio State 6033 304 NL
Scott Wells Tennessee 6017 300 31

NL: No lift

 

[akfinfan]

How many people have done great in the combine, but suck when they actually play, and vice versa. Why do you think some players choose not to participate in the combine?? Because players know that if they do bad on that particular day their stock will drop and I think that's bull$hit. It doesn't matter what you can do in those workouts. That's not football. Football is lining up against your opponent and beating them, not running 40s and jumping and catching etc. Like I said this is what the combine has become, a tool for people to evaluate players, and it's not a fair evaluation of talent. I would rather see a few more college All Star games ran with NFL typr plays.

 

[RUDEbyallMEANS]

The only part of the combine worth anything is the interviews... That's about it.. If you want to see the players speed, watch their games they rarely run in a straight line during a game..

 

[SMadison29]

Fullbacks

Full Name School Ht Wt Bench ( 225 Pounds )
Troy Fleming Tennessee 6-0. 230 NL
Mike Karney Arizona State 5-11.3 254 25 - Reps
Sean McHugh Penn State 6-5.1 264 18 - Reps
Lousaka Polite Pittsburgh 5-11.5 246
Thomas Tapeh Minnesota 6-1.3 245
Alex Wade Duke 6-0.3 248
Travis Wilson Kansas State 6-3.4 256 25 - Reps

Running Backs

Full Name School Ht Wt Bench ( 225 Pounds )
Rich Alexis Washington 6-0 210 NL
Tatum Bell Oklahoma State 5-11.0 212 25 - Reps
Ran Carthon Florida 5-11.3 224 22 - Reps
Maurice Clarett 5-11.4 237 NL
Cedric Cobbs Arkansas 6-0.1 223 NL
Duron Croson Fort Valley State 6-0.6 226 14 - Reps
Adimchinobe Echemandu California 5-10.6 226 15 - Reps
Clarence Farmer Arizona 5-11.7 231 21 - Reps
Steven Jackson Oregon State 6-1.4 241 NL
Greg Jones Florida State 6-1.3 249 NL
Julius Jones Notre Dame 5-9.6 217 NL
Kevin Jones Virginia Tech 6-0.1 227
Derrick Knight Boston College 5-8.6 209 16 - Reps
Mewelde Moore Tulane 5-10.5 209 NL
Jarrett Payton Miami-Fl 6-0.1 220
Chris Perry Michigan 6-0 224 19 - Reps
Fred Russell Iowa 5-7.0 195 21 - Reps
Michael Turner Northern Illinois 5-10.4 237 22 - Reps
Shaud Williams Alabama 5-7.4 193
Quincy Wilson West Virginia 5-9.3 225
Renaldo Works Oklahoma 6-0 222
Jason Wright Northwestern 5-10.3 210 NL

 

[Section126]

I can't wait to here what they think of Shannon Snell's quickness......

A year ago this guy was considered the best interior O-lineman in college......now he is projected in the third round.

 

[RUDEbyallMEANS]

Shawn Andrews weighed in at 366?? OK so now does that give Miami no chance at drafting him?

 

[SMadison29]

Originally posted by chambers84
Football is lining up against your opponent and beating them, not running 40s and jumping and catching etc.

I agree with you to a certain degree but if you can't catch at the combine with nobody around you & in shorts & a shirt then you can't catch. The bench is a very telling stat for lineman & deserve scrutiny.

 

[Section126]

The combine is also important for QB's..........If a guy can't hit a route.....a guy can't hit a route..............It's sometimes that simple.

 

[SMadison29]

Originally posted by RUDEbyallMEANS
Shawn Andrews weighed in at 366?? OK so now does that give Miami no chance at drafting him?

Shawn Andrews verified a story we posted last week; he was in fact over 400-pounds but has been on a crash diet, working out twice daily and lost some 35-pounds the past six weeks.